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I mean, Wayland is still a hot topic, as are snaps and flatpaks. Years ago it was how the GTK2 to GTK3 upgrade messed up Gnome (not unlike the python 2 to 3 upgrade), some hardcore people still want to fight against systemd. Maybe it's just "the loud detractors", dunno
Why would one be discouraged by the fact that people have options and opinions on them? That's the part I'm not buying. I don't disagree that people do in fact disagree and argue. I don't know if I'd call it fighting. People being unreasonably aggressive about it are rare.
I for one am glad that people argue. It helps me explore different options without going through the effort of trying every single one myself.
I'm using wayland right now, but still use X11 sometimes. I love the discussion and different viewpoints. They are different protocols, with different strengths and weaknesses. People talking about it js a vitrue in my opinion
I can only use x11 myself. The drivers for Wayland on nvidia aren't ready for prime time yet, my browser flickers and some games don't render properly. I'm frankly surprised the KDE folks shipped it out
@IzzyJ Agreed! Absolutely no game launches for me on Wayland, even though xwayland is installed and up-to-date. Yet, on the same operating system (Ubuntu 23.10) X11 has always worked flawless for me when it comes to gaming. May be shit is different for AMD folks, but Nvidia is an absolute fucking mess on Wayland.
Being I'm on Mint Cinnamon and using an Nvidia card, I've never even tried to run Wayland on this machine. Seems to work okay on the little Lenovo I put Fedora GNOME on. X11 is still working remarkably well for me, and I'm looking forward to the new features in Wayland once the last few kinks are worked out with it.
I like the fact that I can exercise my difficulty with usage commitment by installing both and switching between them :D.
Wayland is so buttery smooth it feels like I just upgraded my computer for free...but I still get some window Z-fighting and screen recording problems and other weirdness.
I'm glad X11 is still there to fall back on, even if it really feels janky from an experience point of view now.
For me, it's building software from source on musl. Just one more variable to contend with