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Women-only social media app Giggle for Girls taken to court by transgender woman Roxanne Tickle after her account was restricted (www.abc.net.au)

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In short: Transgender woman Roxanne Tickle is suing social media platform Giggle for Girls after she was excluded from the women-only app.
She is alleging unlawful discrimination on the basis of gender identity while the app's founder has denied she is a woman.
What's next? The hearing is expected to run for four days.

A transgender woman who was excluded from a women-only social media app should be awarded damages because the app's founder has persistently denied she is a woman, a Sydney court has heard.

In February 2021, Roxanne Tickle downloaded the Giggle for Girls social networking app, which was marketed as a platform exclusively for women to share experiences and speak freely.

Users needed to provide a selfie, which was assessed by artificial intelligence software to determine if they were a woman or man.

Ms Tickle's photograph was determined to be a woman and she used the app's full features until September that year, when the account became restricted because the AI decision was manually overridden.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm not familiar with Australian law, but how do you get to "discrimination on the basis of gender identity" in this case. Wouldn't the case for that be a trans man trying to join or stay on the app? (Or a cis man for that matter).

It sounds like Tickle's position is that the app should be discriminating based on gender identity. Her complaint seems more like them discriminating on (vaguely defined policy ammounting to) assigned gender at birth.

Having said that, I suspect their tune will change if a trans man tried joining.

[–] dogslayeggs 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having said that, I suspect their tune will change if a trans man tried joining.

Exactly this. I fucking guarantee they wouldn't let a trans man join and actively contribute.

[–] ChexMax 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Idk. I think a big point of the app is to discuss growing up female. Nothing against trans women, and I Believe trans women are women, but as a cis woman, I think I'd have more in common talking about my past with a trans male than with a trans female. We'd have similar stories of being treated a certain way growing up.

[–] dogslayeggs 1 points 2 months ago

I get that, but I bet the trans woman would feel much more in common with you in how she grew up than me. While you might not feel much in common with her, she would probably feel really comforted to hear your stories that align with what she was feeling.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Discrimination based on gender identity is basically saying I have been treated differently due to being transgender. She is saying that she as a transgender woman is being treated differently to a cisgender woman. Or that is at least how it works in the UK. I would presume Australia is similar

[–] MisterFrog 1 points 2 months ago

You can get your sex changed on your birth certificate in NSW according to Wikipedia. Not a lawyer, but I'm gonna guess the app is shit-out-of-luck on this one if their birth certificate indicates they're a woman.