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should locking and forced "merger" of communities be allowed? (self.general)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by AlmightySnoo to c/general
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The [email protected] community on this instance thrived for a while and reached almost 19k subscribers very rapidly and it was very active.

Recently the Reddit mods of r/Android created another community with a few hundred members on another different instance where they are mods and that one was then astroturfed on c/android by a person seemingly unrelated to that community's mods.

Apparently some discussions then took place between owners of both communities and the mods of [email protected] community then unilaterally closed the community, thus, according to their own sticky notice, succumbing to the flawed reasoning that the Reddit mods are "more experienced" and therefore the rightful representatives of an Android community.

I find this behavior sad and it just shouldn't be allowed here for two reasons:

  • this sets the precedent for more Reddit mods to just come and claim "ownership" of communities by bullying existing ones into closing;
  • does not respect the almost 19k subscribers who didn't even have a say in this, and especially those who had already expressed that they joined [email protected] because they did NOT want to be moderated by the old Reddit mods.

[email protected] needs to be reopened now and the mods removed since they expressed that they no longer want to moderate a community on lemmy.world.

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[–] Pika 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I originally disliked this, but I was thinking about it and have changed my mind. Yea this isn't right. if you are closing a community it should be deleted to allow freedom for the next person to use the name. It wouldn't be enforceable at a federation level but, this 100% would be a good instance level rule. Don't take me wrong, I am not against temporary locks for issues internally or for staffing problems, but what was done here was essentially in the domain world what is called a "park" where the name is no longer available for anyone else, but is not being used. I don't think Parking should be allowed, it inhibits growth. This sets a precedent where it would be allowed to make ghost communities here that exist in other instances solely so the community can't exist here as well, it's very anti-user and in my opinion potentially anti-federation.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they are also denying all the people that are here that wanted to see that content.

Subs/etc shouldn’t be deleted by the moderators. Why not allow people to continue? What are the mods adding by deleting everything?

Wouldn’t just leaving the sub behind be the most open thing to do?

[–] ElectroVagrant 11 points 1 year ago

I think there's a slight misunderstanding here. The moderators of /c/[email protected] have only locked it, and so the posts there do remain visible.

The person you're replying to is suggesting that such a locked community be deleted to restore access to the community name so someone could recreate it and...Yeah, I agree with you, that shouldn't be the course of action taken, since it would wipe out what the community had built.