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XMPP as a Discord alternative for small group? (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/selfhosted

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Hi. I have a group of 6 people using Discord to chat. Recently Discord changed a lot and we're looking for an alternative. We have a few requirements:

Good client on multiple platforms
Easy to use search
Self hosted
Permanently saved chat history & attachments on server (no expiration)
Easy image upload (Ctrl+V to post image from clipboard)

IRC isn't an option as chat history is saved on the client, and there's no good integrated way to share files and preview images. Matrix would be an overkill as we're a small group not interested in federation, and the available clients had a few bugs. Mattermost lacks a good mobile app (their current one had bunch of bugs). XMPP appears to be the best as it is extensible and has many clients available.

However, I tried configuring prosody on my FreeBSD server and it seems like it doesn't permanently save chat history or attachment files. Does anyone know if these can be solved? Or is there any better alternative than XMPP?

Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well you also can't remove shit on someone else's email servers so is that not GDPR compatible?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the case of email you have to actively send something to someone for it to be on their server. In Matrix it is sufficient for a 3rd party to join a chat for them to get the entire chat history (hopefully e2ee) including all meta-data back to the very first day the chat was created.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They're actually working on that, which is nice. It's called lazy loading I think? Not sure if it's implemented yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

No, that is only solving the problem of long loading times when first joining a chat (caused by the server having to download the entire chat history and meta-data). Eventually the server still has to synchronize the entire chat. There is no way around it by design.