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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution

Also: The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber and David Wengrow. Basically: anything by Graeber.

[–] boatsnhos931 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you just use a book written in 1902 as a source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Is the origin of species out of date, cause it is older?

Also, the bulk of Graeber's work is from the 21st century.

You can just say that you don't want to believe me, you know.

[–] boatsnhos931 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As I said: if you want contemporary anthropological sources: read basically any book by David Graeber. Mutual Aid is a bit old, but still relevant, too.

[–] boatsnhos931 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Give me some excerpts, quotes or a chapter, using whole books is a little vague and isn't getting your point across. Yeah Darwin's book is still relevant but we have also learned a lot more with his theories as the foundation(comparing biology to anthropology?). Your books are working off of what the primitive societal needs of long ago were, right? Do you really think that those same concepts apply to the society of today?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Look, I'm not ananthropologist and I'm trying to sneak in some lemmy while no one's watching at work, so I'm not going to be able to immediately supply you with concise excerpts of anthropological learnings on human nature.

The gist of Mutual Aid is that cooperation within a species is a vital factor of evolution. That's why I namedropped Darwin. That thesis complements the origin of species.

Yeah Darwin's book is still relevant but we have also learned a lot more with his theories as the foundation

Still doesn't mean that you can't learn anything from a book published in 1902, or that it's not worth reading anymore.

comparing biology to anthropology?

Why is this controvertial? Aren't humans a biological species? Anthropology and biology are about as connected as physics and math is.

Your books are working off of what the primitive societal needs of long ago were, right?

No, they aren't (exclusively). They give testimony of how we got here and that things can be different as they are now.

Do you really think that those same concepts apply to the society of today?

Yes, at least partly. The human brain has had the same biology for the last 100.000 years. You can learn things about human nature from this massive time scale. The basic gist of basically everything Graeber wrote is that societies are formable things. The societies we form will in turn change the way humans interact with each other (changing "human nature"). This in turn means that the whole notion of "progress" being a linear thing, only going into one, unchangeable direction is wrong.

[–] boatsnhos931 -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you are confused about what you believe in. It's ok, we have all been there bud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think you are quite an arrogant prick.

That sure is one way to not have to engage and still feel superior, huh? /s

[–] boatsnhos931 -1 points 7 months ago

I lik u. Wil u b frend?