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Either through memes or comments I keep seeing this sentiment pop-up from time to time. And I'm wondering what your (yes, you) consensus is on it.

I for one am too pessimistic to do anything with potential hints. Like even if there is a good chance I still just don't want to risk it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My mother's actually pretty approachable in that regard, she's a surgeon from a mostly working class family that married in. Anyone else can be pretty difficult though. Especially the part of the family that didn't crash and burn financially, though they life on the other side of the country, luckily.

I'm usually a bit taken aback when I meet a 'guess' person that gets legitimately offended when being asked stuff directly, because pretty much everyone in my circle is pretty chill.

I guess everyone is living in their own world, in the end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting how it's linked to social class so clearly in your family!

Come to think of it, the guessiest guesser in my life is from an industrial factory-labourer workingclass background, but different country. They experience direct requests as confrontations, so they are very easy to inadvertently hurt. It used to exasperate me, until I read the above concept.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, kinda curious, might also be one families customs vs the others, though. Might also be a family that became wealthy at the turn of the last century, and then got stuck in the way they thought they where expected to act, enforced via 'traditions' taught. Dunno, really.

The guessiest person I ever met was actually the mother of my last partner. She was, on the one hand, usually offended by direct requests, while also very much assuming and extrapolating things from anything indirect one said, to the point where she often became incredibly offended by things no one said, but that she heard. It was exhausting, to a degree, and my first instinct was that she was looking for things to be offended about, either consciously or subconsciously, but I also feel that I can't really judge someone for the way they perceive the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think once you get a group of people all guessing it normalizes it within a family as well maybe?

It really is a perception thing I think, but yeah it can feel incredibly exhausting for us, instinctively oppo and I guess frustrating for them.

I had some insight once when a sibling was complaining about how they kept making excuses not to pick up a gift they'd accepted and they seemed genuinely angry the person was still offering and hadn't "taken the hint" they don't actually want it. It's flabbergasting to me but seems like that's really how they see things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One way to normalise it was probably that there where euphemisms seen as the acceptable way to hint at, or say something. I guess.

And yeah. I think people just need to come to terms with there being a range of ways others express themselves, and that they can't expect everyone will just understand their specific way immediately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

@VeganCheesecake I agree. Communication can be hard but it's rewarding.