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How should I do backups? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/selfhosted
 

I have a server running Debian with 24 TB of storage. I would ideally like to back up all of it, though much of it is torrents, so only the ones with low seeders really need backed up. I know about the 321 rule but it sounds like it would be expensive. What do you do for backups? Also if anyone uses tape drives for backups I am kinda curious about that potentially for offsite backups in a safe deposit box or something.

TLDR: title.

Edit: You have mentioned borg and rsync, and while borg looks good, I want to go with rsync as it seems to be more actively maintained. I would like to also have my backups encrypted, but rsync doesn't seem to have that built in. Does anyone know what to do for encrypted backups?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have just been using Borg with a Hetzner Storagebox as the target. That has the advantage of being off-site and not using up a lot of space since it deduplicates. It also encrypts the backup. It might take a while for the initial backup at 24TB though depending on your connection.

[–] sturlabragason 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shit I’ve never heard of Hetzner but their pricing makes de-Googling all my decades of family photos a viable option! Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

...until they change their prices. Always make sure you have a local copy and a way out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Damn never heard of them looks great. Is there any catch or is it like a small company that might go out of business in a few years? I still haven't had to backup more then 4tb but once I do get up to those numbers they might be the best option compared to offsite hard drives like I been doing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As mentioned already, Hetzner is a very big Hoster in Germany. I am a customer since nearly 15 years now and in all that time they also rised the prices only once for the package I use (and I think it was only recently in 2023 or so where it went from 4,90€ to 5,39€). Also their Storage Box seems to be not only one of the cheapest out there I have seen, but as far as I remember, you do not have to pay for the traffic if you want to restore your data, like it is with other hosters. Also they had a good service, were responsive if I opened a Ticket in the past and I can not remember if I had ever problems with the service I use (Web Hosting package).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Can confirm that there is 0 ingress or egress fees, since this is not an S3 container storage server, but a simple FTP server that also has a borg&restic module. So it simply doesnt fall into the e/ingress cost model.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

is it like a small company that might go out of business in a few years?

Hetzner is one of the largest hosting companies in the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

They are anything but small. They are probably one of the biggest German hosting companies out there.

[–] qaz 1 points 8 months ago

I have been using their nextcloud service for several years now and it works great.