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A Telegram user who advertises their services on Twitter will create an AI-generated pornographic image of anyone in the world for as little as $10 if users send them pictures of that person. Like many other Telegram communities and users producing nonconsensual AI-generated sexual images, this user creates fake nude images of celebrities, including images of minors in swimsuits, but is particularly notable because it plainly and openly shows one of the most severe harms of generative AI tools: easily creating nonconsensual pornography of ordinary people.

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[–] abhibeckert 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The internet made photos of trump and putin kissing shirtless.

And is that OK? I mean I get it, free speech, but just because congress can't stop you from expressing something doesn't mean you actually should do it. It's basically bullying.

Imagine you meet someone you really like at a party, they like you too and look you up on a social network... and find galleries of hardcore porn with you as the star. Only you're not a porn star, those galleries were created by someone who specifically wanted to hurt you.

AI porn without consent is clearly illegal in almost every country in the world, and the ones where it's not illegal yet it will be illegal soon. The 1st amendment will be a stumbling block, but it's not an impenetrable wall - congress can pass laws that limit speech in certain edge cases, and this will be one of them.

[–] WaxedWookie 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The internet made photos of trump and putin kissing shirtless.

And is that OK?

I'm going to jump in on this one and say yes - it's mostly fine.

I look at these things through the lens of the harm they do and the benefits they deliver - consequentialism and act utilitarianism.

The benefits are artistic, comedic and political.

The "harm" is that Putin and or Trump might feel bad, maaaaaaybe enough that they'd kill themselves. All that gets put back up under benefits as far as I'm concerned - they're both extremely powerful monsters that have done and will continue to do incredible harm.

The real harm is that such works risk normalising this treatment of regular folk, which is genuinely harmful. I think that's unlikely, but it's impossible to rule out.

Similarly, the dissemination of the kinds of AI fakes under discussion is a negative because they do serious,measurable harm.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think that is okay because there was no intent to create pornography there. It is a political statement. As far as I am concerned that falls under free speech. It is completely different from creating nudes of random people/celebrities with the sole purpose of wanking off to it.

[–] SendMePhotos 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is that different than wanking to clothed photos of the same people?

[–] RageAgainstTheRich 0 points 8 months ago

The difference is that the image is fake but you can't really see that its fake. Its so easily created using these tools and can be used to harm people.

The issue isn't that you're jerking off to it. The issue is it can create fake photos of situations of people that can be incredibly difficult to deny it really happened.