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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That wouldn’t help

The problem isn’t drug use in Mexico, the problem is drugs going to the US

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes to the first part but what do you think would happen to the American drug market if they did that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don’t forsee mass immigration of Americans to Mexico

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@ILikeBoobies @undergroundoverground

Mexico is on my short list of places to move if homelessness gets to close to me. But for no other reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think we were talking about homeless and drug addicts moving there

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Neither do I. I'm not sure of your point?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There will still be people to sell to in the US

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago

Thats literally the point I'm making. I don't get what you don't get here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That legalization of drugs in Mexico isn’t going to get rid of cartels

That is very obvious in my first comment where I say it won’t help

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Okay but you are aware that you just declared it wouldn't help, despite evidence to the contrary right?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/14/legal-marijuana-medical-use-crime-rate-plummets-us-study

https://www.sandiego.edu/news/detail.php?_focus=84160

It cuts into their profits given them less clout and less reason to kill each other. As such, it will help, as can be seen with the example of weed.

Edit: in fact, the only reason drugs remain illegal at all is because some very wealth and powerful people make too much money from it remaining so. Well, that and so the CIA can fund illegal wars around the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You are aware that your articles talk about American legalization and are irrelevant to the topic at hand because the Mexican president doesn’t not hold jurisdiction over the US

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of course I'm aware.

Wait, are you trying to tell me you think it wouldn't translate into helping, if they did it on the other side of the boarder too? I have to check because that's pretty wild.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We are only talking about Mexico here

Mexico having a policy of legalizing all drugs isn’t going to stop the violence because the violence comes from people selling to the US. No cartel is worried they are going to get arrested in Mexico for having these substances

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, yes we are talking about Mexico. Any hit to the cartels profits, be it in America or Mexico, is going to help battle the cartels, even if you don't want to beleive it and even if you declare it not to be true.

You see, they actually sell drugs in Mexico too. Itll also bring down the price of drugs in the US, as the market will be flooded. Its really not hard. You just don't like it and that's not the same thing as it not helping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Be my guest to prove me wrong then

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I already did. You just didn't like it and, again, declared it wouldn't work without a hint of evidence or even any argumentation.

I don't need a magic bullet to disprove "nothing will help." Youre just failing to realise how poor a declaration it was.

Also, I never needed to prove you wrong in the first place. You never proved yourself right. You just declared it to be thus and such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You seem to be circling, this is frivolous

I could repeat what I already said about your proof but then you will just say it again

[–] undergroundoverground 1 points 8 months ago

And you can just re-drclare your baseless nonsense too.

No, weaponised ignorance and a burden of proof falacy is not a cogent rebuttal and pretending it wouldn't work either side of the boarder is desperate, at best.