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Can’t a corporation just enter the space whenever they want to? Can’t they start or even buy out larger instances? Even if Lemmy does take off, wouldn’t this inevitably happen anyway if the space gets popular enough?

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[–] fubo 207 points 1 year ago (55 children)

Think about email. A lot of people use Gmail, Hotmail, or other big email providers. However, Oxford University can run its own email server for its own university community. The EFF can run their own email server for their own purposes. Google or Microsoft doesn't get to dictate to Oxford or the EFF how they run their email server; and they can't stand in the way of Oxford and the EFF sending email to one another.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (41 children)

It is not that simple to run your own email server anymore. Big providers like Google will treat emails from your server as spam and you will have a difficult time having the mail properly delivered. So big tech has effectively squeezed out federated email.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's absolutely not true. I run my own email server with multiple domains and multiple accounts and it's no where close to a difficult IT task.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If anything it's the ISPs that will hassle you for outbound SMTP. There are ways around that but generally blocked by default

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're talking about something completely unrelated to security then. If you want to run services out of your home then you need to buy a business level connection. Or find a VPS service.

None of this will cause you problems with the big names in email as long as you follow the spam procedures.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was actually agreeing with you, in that running a private mail server is not a difficult endeavor as long as you take those things into account. Most VPS and CSP will block SMTP by default (just recently went through this with AWS, had to specifically request the service) since most everyone doesn't have a clue how to secure mail relays and stay off blacklists.

Google, Live, AOL, Yahoo etc might hassle you for DKIM or SPF, but in my experience the ISP is the first hurdle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ah i see. Yeah i went through that process with AWS too. It sucks but it's not a horrible process.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or find a VPS service.

None of this will cause you problems with the big names in email as long as you follow the spam procedures.

I'm yet to see a vps service that is not outright banned on gmail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I run on AWS Lightsail, have been since 2018 and all is working fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeeaaah, I should have worded it as "cheap vps service".

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