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US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones (www.theverge.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/technology

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The US Department of Justice and 16 state and district attorneys general accused Apple of operating an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market in a new antitrust lawsuit. The DOJ and states are accusing Apple of driving up prices for consumers and developers at the expense of making users more reliant on its iPhones.

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[–] miridius 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I only recently found out about iPhones having 50% market share in the US and that's insane to me. I think anyone who's used both Android and iPhones a lot knows that iPhones are both a worse product and worse value for money, so in a fair market they would be the minority

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (7 children)

They're certainly a much worse value for the money and intentionally constrained in ways that maximize the profits of Apple services by making it inconvenient or impossible to use alternatives, but the UI is substantially better than Android. Aside from that and Apple device interoperability benefits, nearly any Android phone is a better choice for most people.

[–] thimantha 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hard disagree. iOS UI/UX is sub par compared to Android. Consistent visuals and fancier animations don't mean that the UI is good.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I find the UI to be so much worse lol

[–] miridius 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agree to disagree I guess! I used an iPhone X as my daily driver for 3 years and was overjoyed to get the Android UI back when I switched back. The iPhone visuals are more consistent but the UX is significantly worse imo. There are a few things that I reckon are mainly just Apple being stubborn and refusing to admit they were wrong - e.g. the lack of a back button

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm reminded that Macs did not have right buttons for decades because Steve Jobbs didn't want them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I have an iMac for work. Right-click is still disabled by default on macOS. One of the first things our company has us do is re-enable it. I was provided a third-party mouse, some others were provided a Magic Mouse which doesn't have a right mouse button.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

but the UI is substantially better than Android.

Yeah, hard disagree

For one, you can make Android look/behave like anything you want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

In general, I agree. I'll add two things:

Android allows you to use third party launchers if you don't like the one that comes with your phone. I use Nova Launcher, for instance. I'm not an Apple person, but to my knowledge that's either not possible or a pain to do on an iPhone. It also lets me buy from different Android device manufacturers and keep a consistent UI across all of them.
Android has some serious UX issues in a few places. The one that gets me the most is when you share something. The interface you get differs based on the source app, sometimes only has a handful of visible options with no sorting or recency options, and it hides the fact that's you can scroll to see more, but never more than about four at a time.

Still, I'll take it over an iPhone any day.

[–] iliketurtles 4 points 9 months ago

The IOS UI is so cumbersome

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The UI is terrible. Unintuitive and can't be customized. What's good about it?

[–] ImTryingLemmy 3 points 9 months ago

but the UI is substantially better than Android

For children and drunks, maybe.