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How does this KEEP GETTING WORSE??

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[–] EdibleFriend 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's EA. That's how it keeps getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The original was EA, this re-release is Aspyr, so as bad as EA are I'm not convinced that they're to blame here.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The original was not EA. It was Pandemic Studios, who released Battlefront 1 and 2 both before they were acquired by Electronic Arts between 2007- 2009.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ah, thanks for correcting me there. I knew that EA were involved at some level and I didn't think to research that part of the post I was replying to, so I stand corrected, but I think the main point I was making is still valid, that the team that initially developed the game weren't behind this re-release.

[–] EdibleFriend 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait... I just had to look them up. The company behind kotar?? Okay now that fucking hurts. I'm used to the fall of EA but... Damn

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Aspyr is the company behind KotOR's mobile, Linux, and modern ports. Bioware was behind the original KotOR, and they were bought and ruined by EA.

[–] EdibleFriend 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay, I should have looked a little more I was just looking at the years. It sounded like the original release years. That's what I get for half assidly googling while I work lol.

So it's like when Rockstar turned the GTA remasters over to the phone people and we ended up with a clusterfuck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Aspyr's KotOR port was considered pretty good, I believe. I was disappointed in their Civilization series ports for Linux because their netcode was incompatible with the Windows versions, which is baffling to me, considering Linux users are already siloed so much in other ways. But the games ran okay, so it wasn't all bad.

But yeah, I haven't really heard any good updates or news come out of Aspyr for a while. If I recall correctly, they were the original devs for the KotOR remake, which was going to be their first game from the ground up from a technical perspective. But they had that taken away from them after working on it for a year or two, which is crazy. It must've truly been awful.

[–] EdibleFriend 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Man this is a shame. Slightly related... How's the switch port? I have a friend who's obsessed with Star wars and just got her first switch and I was going to tell her to get that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

KotOR's console controls can be a bit awkward at times. I haven't played it on Switch, but I originally played it when it released on the OG Xbox. I assume the control scheme is similar. And the graphics are going to be dated, but that's a given for a game from '03. But other than that, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic experience, especially for a die-hard Star Wars fan. It's still my top game of all time, and if you can play it on PC with some graphical enhancement mods, it still holds up really well nowadays.

[–] EdibleFriend 2 points 9 months ago

Got ya thanks:)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The mobile KotoR port was completely broken and you could never leave the Jedi Temple planet.

Jade Empire crashed on launch and was never fixed but they kept selling it.

Ask me how I know. Fuck Aspyr, they've been shit for at least 10 years and I wont ever touch their products again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Embracer, actually, and while I do suspect that the blame for a lot of these problems lies with them (especially the lack of servers, which was almost certainly down to Embracer cheaping out), it's hard to blame this particular failure on anyone but Aspyr. While Embracer almost certainly created the conditions by not giving them enough time and resources to deliver good work, it's still on Aspyr that they used someone's work without permission. There's no real justification for that, even if you're in a bind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wonder if Embracer even had a lot of stakes in this? They sold of Aspyrs parent company (Saber) a few days before release.

Edit: My bad, apparently they kept Aspyr.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Amazing how you can just shit on EA and get upvoted even though they are nothing to do with it.

[–] EdibleFriend 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

iambulletproof.heavy

[–] Beetschnapps 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Almost like they earned a reputation or something. Almost like it’s expected.

Kinda like doing something 10 times in a row so on the 11th time an assumption is made….

I suppose someone could think that “amazing.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I mean, it is pretty amazing. It's funny if they're ironic upvotes and it's wild if they're upvotes of agreement because it is complete misinformation.

Yeah EA has lots of bad rep and yeah they made a couple of games in the series. But the game the article is about, as well as the original game it is remaking were nothing to do with EA.