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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, same in the UK. Really annoyed me that the plumber, electrician.. etc were all engineers. In Germany it's as protected as calling yourself doctor, which ultimately affects how people view the profession and the salaries they command

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, it's a protected term in Canada too but it doesn't necessarily lead to higher salaries.

My cousin who's an electrician made about as much as I did as an electrical engineer, and I left electrical engineering to be a software developer because it paid more. Engineering paid more than being an electrical technician / designer, but not by a huge amount.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I left aeronautical engineering to become a software "engineer" for similar reasons, salary and work culture. Actual engineering pays quite terribly in the UK, it's a fair bit better in Germany or the US from what I hear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

US much better than Germany I’ve heard!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Software yes, actual no

[–] mumblerfish 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It does not only dictate your professional life/status in Germany, being a doctor, your social as well. Someone I know got a postdoc in germany, no luck finding a place to live until they started asking their german collegues to call and saying "doctor so-and-so is looking for an appartment". So, he gets one. The guy has a very long full name, so the nametag the landlord is gonna put on the postbox is way to long, but if you cut off the part where it says he is a doctor, it would fit. He insists to cut that part away, the landlord just refuses, says fuck your name and person basically, and cuts off part of his last name instead. Saying you are a doctor gets you first in fucking everything (maybe not lufthansa, then they just say 'senators' or something). Extremely class divided social society that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Damn I’m surprised to hear that!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

TBF some plumbers and electricians are qualified engineers, just not all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah it's difficult for me to name my title in English 'cause the word doesn't exist. I went to a technical high school, not university. (Not college!)