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YSK: Your Lemmy activities (e.g. downvotes) are far from private (i.imgur.com)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/youshouldknow

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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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[–] lemming007 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Umm, anything you access on the Internet has to know your IP address, that's how the Internet works. Whether or not they choose to keep the logs is a different matter.

[–] consumer451 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ok, sure. But the difference is that I can’t make my own Reddit instance and then see all Reddit users IP addresses.

What is the vetting process of getting an instance federated?

Like if I was an authoritarian henchman, could I make an instance with a community about cats, get federated, then see all the IPs of users calling my boss a pooh bear, on all other instances?

Edit: what about swatting?

[–] azuth 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, sure. But the difference is that I can’t make my own Reddit instance and then see all Reddit users IP addresses.

There's no difference, you don't get IPs of other instances' users just an id

Like if I was an authoritarian henchman, could I make an instance with a community about cats, get federated, then see all the IPs of users calling my boss a pooh bear, on all other instances

Or you could just buy it from reddit.

what about swatting

Fix your police.

[–] consumer451 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This sounds a lot like “not my problem.” I am familiar with this type of response, but usually this level of irresponsible indifference comes from those evil VC backed companies. Except they don’t usually say it out loud.

If this is the attitude of the devs, I am deleting all my glowing recommendations of lemmy on other sites.

Is this really the attitude of the devs?

[–] azuth 1 points 2 years ago

I suppose if you ignore the part where I said the problem doesn't actually exist (IPs are not included in federated content) then It can look like a not my problem response.

I wonder if you will also delete the FUD and misinformation you posted on this thread.