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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Let's not mention the extended update service that people can buy for three years and that will make the oldest incompatible CPU 10 years old at that point...

What a weird way to say that the OS they bought will stop being supported on their 7 year old CPU unless they pay a subscription.

On a bit more serious way, it's a bit of a slap in the face that, you could buy W10, in theory as a single payment, with no announced EOL, and now they say that even though they are going to keep working on security updates, you have to pay extra for it.

I would have respected more of there was no extended period. This way they are encouraged to have higher W11 requirements, so that they can earn more with OEM licenses and subscriptions. And given the nature of the OS and telemetry, they are extremely informed about the install base, so it is a very calculated decision.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, not a single consumer will buy extended support. They won't even install crucial security updates to their computer without being forced to by Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Name a single version of Windows that hasn't stopped being supported at some point.

[–] TheGrandNagus 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The difference is that Microsoft literally marketed Win10 as the last version of Windows.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] TheGrandNagus 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not even gonna bother to click on that. Microsoft said Windows 10 is the last version of Windows. I don't care for revisionist arguments trying to undo their words.

"Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10."

- Microsoft at their Ignite conference

Microsoft stuck by that line. They didn't correct it, they instead leaned into it.

Microsoft said Win10 was the last. It isn't. They lied.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"I won't bother looking at that because I prefer to stay ignorant, here's the quote they talk about in your link that I don't want to read because they actually debunk the fact that it came from Microsoft and that they never corrected it."

Lemmy truly is turning to shit all of the sudden...

[–] TheGrandNagus 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It did come from Microsoft. Directly. They then never corrected it. They went along with it.

You can do mental gymnastics all you want, but the reality is that a senior Microsoft guy that Microsoft chose to speak at a Microsoft event gave a talk that was vetted by Microsoft in which he said Win10 is the last version of Windows.

Did Microsoft issue a correction? No. Not even after loads of articles came out about the subject.

Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the final version of Windows. End of discussion. Goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That comment was actually made by Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft developer evangelist who spoke at the company’s ”Tiles, Notifications, and Action Center” presentation about Windows 10 at Microsoft’s Microsoft Ignite conference in 2015. According to the transcript of the session, Nixon’s comment was more of a throwaway line, one that he literally referred to as a segue.

Here, let me spoon feed you.

Microsoft never confirmed or denied it, people just assumed it was confirmed because that's what they wanted to hear.

[–] TheGrandNagus 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Here, maybe if I repeat it enough it'll get through your skull. But who knows? Maybe you're just too stupid.

It did come from Microsoft. Directly. They then never corrected it. They went along with it.

You can do mental gymnastics all you want, but the reality is that a senior Microsoft guy that Microsoft chose to speak at a Microsoft event gave a talk that was vetted by Microsoft in which he said Win10 is the last version of Windows.

Did Microsoft issue a correction? No. Not even after loads of articles came out about the subject.

Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the final version of Windows. End of discussion. Goodbye.

Let me know if you need me to repeat it again for you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Microsoft didn't say it, there was never an official announcement, a dev said something that was interpreted the wrong way and that wasn't an official communication.

It. Wasn't. A. Microsoft. Announcement.

[–] TheGrandNagus 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck me you must be really, really, really stupid.

You can do mental gymnastics all you want, but the reality is that a senior Microsoft guy that Microsoft chose to speak at a Microsoft event gave a talk that was vetted by Microsoft in which he said Win10 is the last version of Windows.

Did Microsoft issue a correction? No. Not even after loads of articles came out about the subject.

Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the final version of Windows. End of discussion.

It was a senior Microsoft employee at a Microsoft event doing a Microsoft-approved speech for a Microsoft product.

Microsoft. Directly. Said. Window. 10. Would. Be. The. Last. Windows. Version. Fuckwit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

When I reached out to Microsoft about Nixon's comments, the company didn't dismiss them at all. "Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers," says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. "We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations."

**We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time**

Nope, Microsoft didn't say it.

[–] TheGrandNagus 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes they did. Go read the comment again.

I suppose at an Apple event if an Apple representative comes on stage and talks about a new iPad you'd be like "Apple never mentioned a new iPad!!!"?

Hilariously stupid. Microsoft lied, don't get so butthurt about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The spokesperson (someone hired just to speak in the name of the company) saying "we're not talking about branding at this time", we can just ignore that, what's important is what a dev said when replying to a question at an event because, as we all know, people never put their foot in their mouth or say things the wrong way, especially people who are hired for their technical skills and not their communication skills.

[–] TheGrandNagus 0 points 9 months ago

See my above comment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Read my comment again, or at least once.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

with no announced EOL

Also, paid extended support for Windows has been a thing since 95.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see, the problem is that you lack reading comprehension.

Sorry I overestimated you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Nah, the problem is you sharing your opinion when you don't take the time to analyse the facts.