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[–] TrickDacy 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do project managers make decent money? In my field I've always been told developers make significantly more.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I would make more as project manager, but I don't want to be on the phone and write mails with clients all day

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would rather set myself on fire than to look at budgets, billable rates, timesheets, or talk to people.

I'm hardore technically aligned, and far enough along in my career (and at a good enough company) that I can turn down opportunities to PM.

[–] nrezcm 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look at this fat cat who can turn down opportunities over here!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

He's such a dick

[–] TrickDacy 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

May I ask what your field is? I am in software development.

[–] Viking_Hippie 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

looks around barley, I think? 🤷

[–] TrickDacy 3 points 9 months ago

Ha. Ha. Ha. Lol, sort of

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Industrial automation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

When I was in college I learned I liked the idea of coding a lot more than I liked coding. Now I know just enough C++ to be able to translate dev speak into corporates speak and back, can claim to be an engineer, and get to talk to stupid people, who think they are smart, who think that I'm really smart, and I spend more of my day on social media. I had one job that in the six months I was there I think I actually did MAYBE 40 hours of work. If it wasn't for "business conditions related to COVID-19" I'd probably still work there, though I'm making more, and working somewhat more, now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

developers SHOULD make more, but in my experience they don't. I suspect part of this is because the people that make the salary decisions frequently talk to the PM so they know he's valuable, but the devs even if he has talked to them he likley doesn't have a relationship with them, and sees them primarily as a number of spreadsheet that can be replaced with less expensive developing nation devlopers anytime the stock price goes down (or in my case went up but they thought it was going to go down, so they went ahead and laid off 1,000 devs in the States anyway, promising to hire 3,000 Indian devs in their place, and then not actually doing that even, which made the stock price go up again)