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I wish the EU would just ban Apple altogether and be done with it! No more sales of anything Apple.
Close all the stores, both local and online, stop selling accessories, stop selling macs, iPads, TV etc.
Let current device owners use it until it breaks and then recycle it.
End of story. That company is just poison. The apple logo suits them - it's the poisonous apple given to snow white!!
In what world is there where less competition has been a good thing for the consumer?
Apples lock in is worse for consumers than any "competition" they provide. There are enough other brands to foster competition.
Plus don't forget you Americans banned Huawei devices because they were a threat to Apple.... Under the guise of "spying" with zero evidence thereof...talk about eliminating the competition
Wait, so you’re saying to ban Apple but then on the other hand you’re upset about Huawei devices being banned?
Apple isn’t the only cell phone maker in the USA so I’m not sure why you think Apple was the one who banned Huawei. That’s a conspiracy theory and I don’t use those to make my arguments and I don’t think others should as well.
Tim Cook meets Donald Trump and a few weeks later Huawei is banned. I mean, it's obvious. Huawei was on its way to become the #1 selling brand worldwide.
I didn't say I was ok with it but I'm saying if they can do it to Huawei they can do it to Apple as well ...
The USA, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia and Europe don’t use Huawei.
It’s not the conspiracy you think it is.
One of the things in this list is different from others
Lol. These are all US allies.
Not anymore, but my 3 previous phones were all Huawei.
Bro, don't believe everything you read. Which OBJECTIVE 3rd party has verified this?
Nobody. The US told Canada to comply or else, and they went along with the BS story.
I SERIOUSLY doubt Huawei would be so stupid as to do that. And if they did, I guarantee you they would hide it very, very well.
Do you know how much malware governments make which goes undetected for years? Plenty. That's the name of the game. No way Huawei would make it that easy to get caught knowing the US would check for this...
UK government buildings are stuffed full of their CCTV cameras as well. Because David Cameron.
"We already have one backdoor, what's the issue with a few dozen more" isn't the gotcha you think it is.
We can dream
😊
Wet dream of euro communism, get rid of any powerfull competition that keeps messages e2e encrypted and won't install spyware on their hardware. Talk with evil corporations like google and microsoft to enforce one digital id, then presinstall spyware on every android and windows os to be able to login to internet.
"Hurr durr, communism is anything I don't understand"
Regressivist scum shouldn't be allowed in public.
Apple was already evil when even Microsoft wasn't.
IBM was evil before Apple and Microsoft was evil. What's your point ?
Apple's still evil ^_^
At least you know from start what you sign up for, not find out about it after 10 years transition from "Don't be evil" to doing mostly evil stuff.
Actually they too had somewhat different propaganda 10 and 20 years ago, partially aimed at geeks etc, however weird that may seem now.
I agree that they were and are aiming for minorities, like their logo was a rainbow for decades. They do it to give some sort of exclusiveness to the brand by being inclusive.
At lest they're consistant for me and don't change their minds to much over the years. They are now forced to make changes because government lobbying against them what I'd say is more evil than everything on this planet. For example maybe I don't want to use USB-C, maybe I want to sit naked in my house build from shit, eating peanut butter from my ass in the middle of nowhere with my own solar panel but government bans me from doing it because some people say it's bad for you. More bad than stuff I'm allowed to do like buy bleach and drink it.
Well I got what I paid for and I wish all people get that feeling and stop forcing other people to use something because they think it's better to do it their way. I want it my way - like Frank Sinatra once said.
But they do. Say, they were pretty supportive of people storing actual files locally and opposed to subscription models. Now it's different.
And then they were kinda supportive of FOSS (loud about MacOSX being a Unix, forking KHTML). That changed.
And they of course like to claim they don't spy on you, but they just spy as much as they need.
They also benefit quite a lot from governments supporting their claims about rounded corners.
OK.
Yeah, well nobody's perfect, as long as they don't waste my time and I don't see ads based on what I wrote in my messages I can use them. I don't have time to install custom OS everytime my android phone breaks or compile my own chromium because every chromium based browser spies on me more or less. It's all about sacrifice money or time. If open source software will stop wasting people time and start automating stuff people will switch and they will switch in no time. Like look yahoo->google or myspace->facebook. 2-3 years those companies can be gone or mostly rely on corporate - like they're seeing it and facebook and google is trying to switch to corporate customers as fast as they can because they know they can't keep up on consumer market, they're mostly done here. Regular people don't care about rounded shapes or where their files are, they want get shit done so they don't spent so much time on it. If someone creates gui that enables them to do it and have open source product begind the scenes there is no point to not to change the story. But for now I don't see it.
Lol. Apple is at the HEART of communism and NWO. It is BIG BROTHER. That's why their devices are locked down - to lock you in...
Don't forget Apple complied with Chinese Communist government to give them access to users iCloud accounts and also banned apps Chinese government doesn't like. Meanwhile Google is still banned in china because they refused to censor the internet.
Plus on android I don't have to log into anything Google and can install open source apps to me hearts delight, with zero spyware or even install a different OS. Can't do that with apple stuff.
Rethink your world view.
And you what, read minds that you know what people want and who rules the world ? You praise that company can't protect their business and government that can enforce any company to do anything government want. You know who was doing that before, opressing companies that don't do what government wants ?
You're supporting government making decisions about how people need to live by punishing companies and not managing to maintain free market and support small business. Those like you that think that it's good to punish people by taking money from them are the worst.
The difference between apple and android is that apple is sole producer of both software and hardware platform if you like it or not and it's protecting it's IP. If you don't like apple products nobody is enforcing you to buy them or to use them. It's only a feeling of missing out that drives your anger. If apple got 0.5% of market would anyone brag about company having their both hardware and software platform closed ? Does anyone brags about nintendo not allowing everyone to install anything on their console ? But no you want to punish all people who use apple products because you hate them and they didn't do anyting wrong beside don't care about what you think and have a free will to make their own decisions.
You hate people that use apple because they made decision to use apple product. That's racism, facism or mental disability. Go see the doctor.
Are you on drugs or something bro? I don't hate anyone. If anything I feel sorry for apple customers because they are being abused and don't even know it.
You should read up on Richard Stallman and the ideas of Libre Software/Free Open Source Software.
Then you will understand how bad Apple really is towards its users and why everyone should be using Linux and open source software.
Siemens Mobile, Alcatel, Ericssson, Nokia, Psion - where are those phone manufacturers, where are those companies selling their tech right now and why their main market is not in EU ? Symbian OS, where is this open source operating system ? You don't see what globalists are doing because you're delusional, shout open source and you are sold whatever and whoever is behind it. Books are not real life. I can't wait for chinese companies take over every automotive brand in EU after EU destorys their automotive like they destroyed their mobile phone manufacturers, maybe this would wake up people.
Dear MAGAt, delete your account and cut your internet cable.
Sure, thanks. Wish you all the best too. What next order you got from your commander ?
Many of these companies still exist but do other things. The biggest open source successful project is Servers - much servers run Linux. After that the next most successful open source is Android - the best selling mobile OS on the planet. That's really my friend....
First thing is that Android is not open source. It's open core. Second thing go make android phone without signing NDA with Google, try to convince factories to sell you parts so you can make a mobile phone and wait until they say they don't want to be removed from Google official list.
Oh those companies do different things now so they're cool ? What things they do ? Siemens Mobile renamed and owned by Chinese, Alcatel licensed to TCL - Chinese. You're bragging aboout China being bad, but look those companies do different things they're good, they were forced to sell their business to China so they're good now.
It's all good, it's great. Great because you can install your linux. Very soon only on old hardware because they won't sell you new one without spyware and drm inside but well you're good. You can install things, but you can't install them on Playstation, you can't install them on Nintendo, on your coffe maker, on your washing machine, on your owen, on your car or anywhere you want. You can install things only where they allow you to do it and you're happy with that. LOL
I didn't say China was bad. I said Apple was bad.
And you can make a very good Android phone with AOSP. You won't have Google services but you could make your own app store like Huawei and Samsung have.
So China is good. Nice to hear that, at least I know with whom I am writing. What's next command comrade ?
I never said China was good either. I just said Apple are being jackasses.
Newsflash: there is no such thing as a good government or politician. They are typically all scumbags.
Seems Apple is following in their footsteps
There is difference between for profit company responsibilitires and government responsibilities. What EU did is in my opinion as an Apple user - they saw shit laying and they said let's spread this shit all over the people that use those products. That's what money penalty is and you're claiming it's fine and moreover you're claiming that products that I legally bought with full awareness what they are ( I was using custom AOSP) should be banned from country in which I was born. That's what I feal. What I feel is I should leave EU and Europe because it will kill itself by people like you. Well good luck with that attitude, becaue it would happen to you at some point and you will end up with no money whatsoever because some government administration worker will say you're guilty of doing something that is part of your income for years.