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My Razer Naga Pro died and I'm absolutely not buying another one for what it costs. But I also can't seem to find a replacement with the same sort of layout this one had. I'll link a picture, but I'm essentially looking for a mouse that has a lot of side buttons but still has a place for me to rest my thumb without having to worry about accidentally pressing buttons. I don't really like 12 button MMO style mice for this reason, as I constantly feel like I'm going to accidentally press a button. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Edit: I also want to note that I'm right handed, and I hate the feel of ambidextrous mice. I like being able to lay my hand on the mouse and know exactly where my fingers are supposed to go.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The Logitech G604 has been my champion

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036534033-Getting-Started-G604

It's immediate predecessor definitely felt more rugged, in terms of build quality, but it's still the only mouse I can use.

At first the price will probably be listed high, but they go on sale all the time. I gotten mine and its previous model somewhere between $40-$60.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/615496/logitech-g-g604-lightspeed-wireless-gaming-mouse

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I loved my G604, but after a year (days after warranty expired ofc) it suffered from the common Omron switch corrosion “double click” issue. In practice, it dropped button-holds and clicked again. Imagine dragging a window, it drops it, and randomly clicks somewhere else on screen, but all while you’re holding the button down.

It was a great one year though. That was probably my last Logitech product, though many other brands use those switches too. AFAIK the problem mainly affected wireless mice. From what I’ve read, the switches require a certain voltage to prevent corrosion, but when Logitech and other brands improperly use them in wireless mice, the battery-saving features don’t meet the power requirement.

Maybe they’ve since fixed it, but I personally wouldn’t recommend this mouse unless you’re comfortable opening it up and cleaning the contacts or replacing the switches someday - or don’t mind keeping a 2nd one handy.

[–] Narauko 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I got tired of soldering new switches on my Logitech mice. It's the only reason I ended up with a Razer for my latest mouse, optical switches that physically cannot get double click failure. Logi isn't the only one with the double click failures, Razer traditional switch mice fail for me even faster than logi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

FWIW I've been using Logitech mice for decades at home and at work: Overall, problems seem to be pretty rare and Logitech usually fixes stuff if you contact their support, I've even had them replace stuff that was out of warranty. My current daily drivers are an MX Master, MX Verticle, and MX Anywhere. Not exactly gaming mice but they've been working great for years. Might be different swtiches?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have a G502 Hero that had the bad Omron switches that would give double clicks. I ended up swapping them out for some Kailh switches, but its def only a fix you can do if you're comfortable with a soldering iron.

I would hope this defect would be solved by now, cuz I got this mouse in around 2018

[–] HKPiax 1 points 9 months ago

How did you choose the switches? I’ve read they need to be rated for very low currents or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

At this point it's not a defect, it's planned.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I like it but I do get odd double clicks here and there, that can be very annoying, and it's older brother the g602 had the same issue. However the build quality of the g602 was better, the rubber on the g604 has degraded much quicker, and I had to reglue some of the top plastic on the left side of the mouse.

Logitech's quality is going down while their prices stay the same/rise

I do like the g604 for the most part but I really would recommend another brand if possible.

[–] aido 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's not the most difficult repair to swap the Moise buttons out, they're standard parts. You need to know your way around a soldering iron though.

Edit: You do have to buy replacement skates though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Sure but you shouldn't have to, like they know dust gets in the switch and does that they just don't fix it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've basically had to quit buying Logitech mice due their build / switch quality falling thru the floor over the past 5 years.

I've gone thru 5 g300s mice in the last 5 years or so. (I like the button layout)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah it's tempting to build my own damn mouse around the logic board with my own switches lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Not only is the quality going down hill, but the customer service is absolute shit now. Used to be you'd get a new mouse, no questions asked, because the double clicking thing is/was a known issue. When I had to replace my g703 a couple years back, the hoops they made me jump through to prove that it was actually broken was ridiculous. I know of several people who have had similar experiences. Took over 2 weeks to get them to send me a new one.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've had my 502 at home for something like 6 years IIRC. Immediately bought one for work. Great mice, no issues.