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[–] zkfcfbzr 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think being able to see upvotes and downvotes is a little too far for comfort. I can confirm that on Lemmy I don't seem to have any way to see what you've voted on.

I have a very poor understanding of what Kbin is - does it allow you to see what I've upvoted/downvoted even though I only use Lemmy? Does it only apply to posts or comments too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Admins on Lemmy can see it all too if the want. It all gets federated between instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry ignore the upvotes and downvotes part, misspoke regarding those two.

As for what kbin is: Lemmy, but different software. Still uses the same protocol and functions basically the same as lemmy but coded from scratch instead of just using the same software the rest of lemmy does. http://kbin.social, for example)

[–] zkfcfbzr 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool - thanks for clarifying. The rest of the things you mentioned being shared sound pretty expected to me - so as long as upvotes/downvotes are hidden I'm happy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ok did some more digging cause I saw some mixed info and I wanted to be sure lol.

So final answer: Yes on Kbin we can see those things. Any post we click on (for example I'm using this one on lemmy.world https://lemmy.world/post/256166, viewed through kbin.social). On every post (regardless of what instance it's on) we have an Activity button which when you click on will show you the Boosts (a kbin thing equal to a Twitter retweet), favourites (upvotes), reduces (downvotes, if you're somewhere that supports them), and all info is public (here is a screenshot which I censored, however I assure you I am regular bumble-fuck-user-#213™. https://imgur.com/a/Jz4iP3Q)

So yes everything is public. I can't find a way to find it on a person's account, but on specific threads you can see it. A person may have to dig a bit for it, but it is public indeed. Whether anyone on Lemmy can see the same thing, or ever will, I have no idea, but we can on Kbin and it does count across the Fediverse it appears.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WTF, the activity button is also on comments. So you can literally see a full list of users who upvoted or downvoted you.

I'm guessing it was done for transparency, but it just seems ripe for abuse. People can take things like downvotes way too seriously. I've seen unhinged users on Reddit go harassing a commenter who disagreed with them.

I do not like this "feature".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I would rather not get abusive DMs from some loser demanding to know why I downvoted them. At least don't show lemmy users' votes. Kbin users can agree to opt-in to that by using the service, we can't.

[–] zkfcfbzr 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for digging. It is a little better that it's tied to the post rather than the account - but I'd imagine someone who cared enough could just make a scraper to aggregate account-specific data for everyone (or even just specific users).

I echo @[email protected] with not particularly liking this feature.