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[–] HappycamperNZ 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Came here with similar response. Ill join you in the downvotes.

Democracynow.org is horrific for half stories and bias. I went through Al Jazeera and a few points.

  • Israel did open fire on the civilians. Their response and reasoning is that the trucks were being swarmed and the drivers who did kill some by being run over were Hamas drivers. People were likely killed in stampead prior to opening fire, and in the ensuring panic afterwards.

  • Hamas is claiming they were deliberate shots at chest level.

  • the fog of war in this conflict is horrible, and its exponentially worse because of propaganda, poor reporting and uneducated masses having a voice.

[–] radicalautonomy 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

...so the guys driving the fucking aid trucks were Hamas? And Hamas was purposefully using the aid trucks to run over its own people? So Israel started firing at the drivers of the aid trucks but miraculously missed every shot, and them gunning down dozens of civilians was an oopsie?

You believe that? Cuz that's really fucking stupid.

You know why there was a mob of people? Because there is no food in Gaza. At all. People are subsisting on grains used for animal food, anything with calories. People are desperate when they are starving to death. And Israel, the fucking monsters, engineered this situation by only letting a couple trucks here and there trickle in while hundreds of aid trucks wait at the border, unallowed to enter.

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[–] foofiepie 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It all just horrible, any which way you slice it. Gut wrenching.

I don’t doubt for a second the IDF have a shitload to answer for, but the propaganda machine is polarising people into a flat rejection of measured discourse, as usual.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What I'm reading Israel is saying:

They did not fire on the civilians (around the trucks)

Their tanks fired warning shots to disperse the crowd (implying aimed away from the civilians)

Nothing about the drivers being Hamas (as in: if they were escorted there, I don't think they would consider the drivers a threat, as that's what's being suggested by this wording)

A nearby incident (how near? Probably very near) where civilians came towards their checkpoint, didn't stop after warning shots, and then they started shooting to kill

[–] HappycamperNZ 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to the article you read? I went through the Al Jazeera one and it didn't mention this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

It's at the start of this comment thread we're both replying to