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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Dreich is a Scots word. Skein is too but I think it's borrowed from Gaelic.

[–] chemical_cutthroat 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Zarf is Arabic, and plash is Dutch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Old English plæsc. Possibly cognate of, but not borrowed from Dutch plas (puddle)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Zarf sounds like a Pinky adlib

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I thought Scots is a Gaelic language. Am I missing something?

[–] TempermentalAnomaly 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Scots is close enough to English that some scholars say it's a dialect and others say it's it's own language.

A while back, a teenager wrote many of the articles on the Scots Wikipedia thinking it was just an accented English. It was a mess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I gave up editing wikipedia years ago. My edits would be swamped with reverts and snarky comments because the information didn't agree with intro textbooks. In at least one case it turns out an instructor was giving extra credit to students to "correct" information. The textbook they were using was deeply flawed of course. But there you are.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I remember reading that Wikipedia was just phase one of the project where draft articles were written. Phase two was a more formal project where experts would refine the draft articles and they would be peer reviewed. Unfortunately, production was slow and Wikipedia took off so the project was effectively abandoned after a few years. Too bad. What field were you writing in?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Neuroscience. I think the last straw was where I had a review article on a specialist topic rejected from a couple of fancy journals. Rather than rewrite it for a lower tier, I modified it for Wikipedia. It got insta-banned and I got scolded/black marked for plagiarism. It was truly a "but I am Pagliacci" moment. Nobody in the chat page believed it or seemed to want to listen.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to hear that. What a weird experience. Glad you removed yourself from a bad situation. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Well you know the tenure treadmill. This was 15+ years ago so Wiki contributions weren't counted towards professional activity. It literally wasn't worth the effort given the other options. Cheers to you as well!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, the two languages have separate roots. Gaelic is often called Scots Gaelic to distinguish it from Irish, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks for that. My family immigrated from Scotland a billion years ago or so, and we were always told they spoke mostly Gaelic. When I look at the language map they were from the Gaelic speaking islands that I now know are part of the Goidelic language family. Scots is in the south and part of the Brittonic language family. I can see more reading ahead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Scots is Germanic. Brittonic is a subfamily of Celtic languages that includes Welsh and Cornish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I am getting dumber by the minute. lol.

[–] Dremor 2 points 9 months ago

Dreich is also used in Breton (another Celtic language).