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You think updating an online game should set off major alarm bells?
Obviously not you pleb. He is clearly pointing out the fact that having a multiplayer game with anti-cheat driven by the vision of one person is step one in the slow decline into autocracy. Haven't you ever read 1984?
I hope you're being sarcastic
The inability of people to understand sarcasm without an explicit tag is mind-boggling. How hyperbolic do I need to be? Should I relate Tetris to the authoritarianism of the Cold War? I bet a lot of y'all ask questions and get referred to the previous email, don't you?
That's why I asked, man. I saw it but with that other guy being serious I wanted to make sure.
I kind of used you as an opportunity to get on a soapbox. I wasn't annoyed at your question. I was annoyed at the other people down voting me clearly missing the joke. Apologies for using you as an example.
Nah you're fine. I hear ya
You have essentially given kernel level access to a games company. That’s a line no software company should ever cross. Then they acknowledge they employ someone to actively manipulate the game as you play. There’s only one more small step to complete intrusion that you will never know about. But hey, do as you will, it’s your computer, your info.
Is this your first time experiencing anti cheat?
Dude most anti cheats dont need kernel access. This is a relatively new and very shitty practice.
I’m trying to warn the frogs but damn they’re already boiled.
Warning people about kernel level access is valid. Nobody is disagreeing with that end point. Everyone is taking exception to the wild logic you used to get there as well as the fact that you didn't read the article.
I didnt read it? Pretty sure our boy Joel can manipulate the game server wide or get granular enough to give a specific player power ups. They don’t say he’s trawling through your browser history or personal files, but you make a wild assumption that they wouldn’t when they can. When other companies are desperately mining our personal info by any means necessary I’m not about to think that opening the gates for a game company would be any different.
Now, technically, GameGuard is owned by a separate company, INCA. Maybe you trust that the Helldivers crew isn’t accessing your machine, but do you trust INCA too?
If GameGuard / INCA is ever compromised are you prepared to have your PC accessed by a malicious actor? You’ve handed this company the keys, so let’s hope they’re good at guarding them. You’ll only know after its happened, and these companies tend to wait a few weeks or months to announce when they’ve been breached.
I'm responding only because I think your insanity is amusing, btw.
Clearly you didn't read the article.
HOW did you come to this conclusion if you actually read the article??! READ THE ARTICLE PLEASE. NB: do not confuse "Planets" with "individual matches" because they are not the same.
My brother in Christ. Nobody thinks this level of invasive bullshit is a good thing. You don't have to keep explaining the part we all already know.
Can you explain please for the feeble minded such as myself how one is related to the other?
We'll you see because I know what a kernal is, I mean I've heard about it recently, and I also read that it's a bad thing to have access to, I've equated any changes that can be made to anything in a program as horrible, too. If you give a dog a steering wheel he'll chase the ambulance, you know what I mean? Hold on this foil hat is melting into my hair.
-OP
Lol I agree he was a little alarmist about the wording but you acting like full kernal access is nothing is part of the problem he was talking about. Don't downplay it.