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It’s No Surprise That “Skills-Based” Hiring Has Not Worked (www.forbes.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/technology
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This article outlines an opinion that organizations either tried skills based hiring and reverted to degree required hiring because it was warranted, or they didn't adapt their process in spite of executive vision.

Since this article is non industry specific, what are your observations or opinions of the technology sector? What about the general business sector?

Should first world employees of businesses be required to obtain degrees if they reasonably expect a business related job?

Do college experiences and academic rigor reveal higher achieving employees?

Is undergraduate education a minimum standard for a more enlightened society? Or a way to hold separation between classes of people and status?

Is a masters degree the new way to differentiate yourself where the undergrad degree was before?

Edit: multiple typos, I guess that's proof that I should have done more college 😄

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[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It makes me shudder to think how the modern web is just treating browsers as JavaScript application environments. Converting a little backend load into a massive frontend headache is the exact opposite of where we thought we were headed twenty years ago.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, it’s not a massive front end headache if you do it right. And, by passing off a lot of the easy stuff to the browser, your server can handle more load. As a bonus, it’s easier to decouple your architecture. Not only is this more efficient, but it’s easier to maintain, test, and deploy.

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's sacrificing efficiency on the frontend for the backend. It makes the backend easier to test, while making the frontend more complex. It significantly jacks up requirements for the clients while reducing them for the host.

You backend people are forgetting that there are devices on the other end that need to process and render this bullshit. It sells more new iPhones, though, so who the fuck cares?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m equally proficient on the front end. I don’t have any problem making front end code that doesn’t require the latest and greatest processor.

Inefficient JavaScript and abusive css animation are the cause of all that. Preventing event flooding is crucial and often overlooked. And ffs, not everything has to be animated. If the fan kicks on, that developer is a moron.

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My point is that the JavaScript is inherently inefficient.

The possibility that you might suck less than someone else doesn't fix that fact, or the fact that the modern web can bring a ten-year-old tablet to its knees.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

JavaScript doesn’t run on a Commodore 64 either, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use it.

I’ll still argue that an efficient web app will be a significantly better experience than waiting for pages to load, even on a 10 year old tablet.

And to support that, I do most of my mobile testing on my old iPhone 6—which is, coincidentally, 10 years old. I don’t have trouble with JavaScript on that.

I think what it comes down to is there are a lot of unskilled developers out there that misuse JavaScript… and PHP.

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And both are complete clusterfucks, so it's not that surprising.

But at this point it's literally just a case of "old man yells at cloud."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What isn’t a clusterfuck?

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

More than PHP and JavaScript?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

🤷‍♂️ kinda sounds like you might be doing things the hard way.

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

By considering all aspects of a system, and identifying bottlenecks?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bottlenecks like?

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did you already forget the prior thread?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where you didn’t actually have any specific complaints other than your poor implementation of JavaScript and PHP? Yes I recall. I assume you don’t actually currently do this for a living?

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe go back and reread the thread, buddy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I did. You just complain about JavaScript like someone who can’t use JavaScript and complain about PHP like someone who can’t use PHP. Your reasoning isn’t based on any real world examples, and your opinions of technologies that are widely praised seem to be based on a grudge. You weren’t kidding about yelling at clouds.

[–] SpaceNoodle 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

PHP and JavaScript are widely derided. What planet are you on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m on the planet that gets paid. You spend too much time in /programminghumor and not enough time developing.

But nothing is good to you, since everything is a “clusterfuck” right?

PECAK.

[–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look, I get it. You have no idea what the computer is actually doing when it runs your little scripts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That must be it.