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Pakistan woman in Arabic script dress saved from mob claiming blasphemy (www.bbc.com)

submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave to c/worldnews

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An angry mob in Pakistan accused a woman who wore a dress adorned with Arabic calligraphy of blasphemy, after mistaking them for Quran verses.

She was saved by police who escorted her to safety after hundreds gathered. She later gave a public apology.

The dress has the word "Halwa" printed in Arabic letters on it, meaning beautiful in Arabic.

Blasphemy is punishable by death in Pakistan. Some people have been lynched even before their cases go on trial.

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[–] fidodo 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, so if the vast majority of the country is bat shit crazy then I don't know how to fix it. The only examples I can point to for dismantling a dangerous national ideology is Germany and Japan post WW2 and it was not a happy road getting there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't say majority of the country is batshit crazy, it is just held hostage by an archaic religion that is extremely violent towards blasphemers.

You might say, that is not much of a difference, but imo it is a meaningful difference because most muslims disagree or refuse to act on this belief (as evidenced by the police and shopkeepers who protected the girl), they just can't do anything to change that it is part of orthodox Islam. So the hardliners win on this one, every time.

Only way to fix it is to secularize the state, which will either take a revolution or a lot of fucking time. Definitely not happening in my lifetime.

[–] Holyginz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, is being an atheist something that can get you in trouble? Or being someone who used to be muslim? Or is it a case that as long as you aren't committing blasphemy or something like that you are relatively safe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Generally, if you keep a low profile, you're fine. It's not like the average person will try to fight you if they find out you're an atheist. It is extremely taboo, though. In my case, most of my friends are left-wing activists and/or artists, so it is not a problem for me socially, but I think I am an outlier in that respect. I do hide it at the office though (or at least I did when I was going to one), and from my extended family, and of course from strangers.

It is absolutely not something you can be public about. If somehow, you become publicly visible and recognized as an atheist, it is best that you flee the country lest you end up in the same situation as the girl in the OP.