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About the only way we're going to actually have a democracy is if they consistently lose elections. That's going to mean volunteering, donating, and actually turning out to vote

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (8 children)

He’s not being sarcastic. He’s artificially injecting sarcasm into his voice so he can say what he really believes.

Say what? Did you watch your own video? Because I followed your link, watched it for ~3min, and he is clearly 100% being sarcastic. Not just in tone of voice, it's clear from the content. No doubt about it. When laying out his "plan to destroy democracy" it's a laundry list of points from the stop-the-steal bullshit. Among that:

  • Ban paper ballots
  • Replace with mail-in voting and dropboxes
  • Remove election day
  • No voter-ID requirements
  • Arrest opposition leader 4 times (this is a Trump reference)
  • Imprison protesters who don't like democracy being abolished (January 6th reference)
  • Flood the nation with millions of "invaders" to vote in their favour

All things the Republicans accused the Democrats of doing during the 2020 election. Then he ends with saying:

This is their "democracy" [doing air-quotes]. This is the regime we will overturn. They say democracy but they mean authoritarianism, and we know it.

I mean the guy went off the deep end and is obviously insane, but there is simply no doubt that he was being sarcastic here and that the measures he cites are not his actual plan. A Republican letting millions of people into the country voluntarily should have given it away to even the densest of viewers.

[–] daed 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It is absolutey insane how hard it is to find one reasonable comment on Lemmy these days. 'Naturally gifted' density or willful ignorance, either way, there's an impressive amount of people that believe he was speaking from the heart because it confirms their own beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I understand the start of his speech where he says "this is my plan" is his idea of a joke. He's not saying he's going to do those things, he's saying the Democrats have already done those things. But he really believes that the Democrats have done those things or that the beneficial things the Democrats have done are evil. Sorry I didn't think I needed to be this explicit.

He does want to destroy our democracy though. He wants a christofascist dictatorship. He talks about making a "new American Republic" out of the ashes and retribution. He wants to pardon the Jan 6 rioters. He wants to lock up political opponents in the Democratic Party. They want to replace everyone in the white house with partisan yes men, a plan called Project 2025.

Sorry, I didn't do a good job explaining this the first time around.

[–] daed 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And I understand that you understand the joke. I understand that Posobiec and the far right are nuts and believe the Democrats have already done what he's joking about. You didn't need to be that explicit, and you don't have to type "Sorry, I didn't think I needed to be that explicit" in every reply to make yourself feel superior either. You're not apologizing, you're still on a high horse. I don't even necessarily disagree with you but I took issue with your responses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I made a mistake. I wasn't clear or explicit enough and a bunch of people misunderstood because of it. If you don't believe my apology is sincere, I don't care. But I'm not going to let you or anyone mischaracterize what I say without a response.

edit: Ok, I might care a little if you don't accept my apology. But as far as I'm concerned you have the right to reject my apology and say it is insincere. For some reason I don't really understand, I really care if other people in general think less of me. ~~I think~~ I have an ego problem.

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