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[–] Aux -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What excess value? Ever tried to produce it yourself?

[–] 20hzservers 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, every single day my man. I produce excess of the product that I make (I'm a coffee roaster), that is I produce more coffee in a day than I am able to consume myself. Due to my experience I am able to produce at not only a higher yield per hour than an inexperienced person would be able to but I'd also argue a higher quality product. Every single worker does this in some manner I luckily work for a company that shares my values and pays a fair chunk of that value I create back to me, our owners main job is sourcing coffee bean for us to roast and managing the business which he is paid for. In larger corporations the owners are the stockholders who do no actual production or value adding tasks of their own yet they reap a large chunk of the value created by their employees.

[–] Aux -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If we're talking about "larger corporations" then we're talking about publicly traded companies. The stockholder is YOU. Maybe you should spend a bit of time learning the basics of economics.

[–] GeneralVincent 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not how stocks work, in the UK or the US. You've demonstrated throughout this entire comment section that you don't understand what you're talking about with those "basic economics"

A stockholder is someone who buys stocks. Working for a company does not mean you are a stockholder. And you cannot buy stocks with all that freely forged food that's everywhere in the forests around all of us.

You're great at trolling, maybe leave the economics to everyone else tho.

[–] Aux 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ahaha! Ok. Maybe you should stop skipping school for once.

[–] GeneralVincent 0 points 10 months ago

I'm not in school, I graduated and now am working for a company. Which I'm not a stockholder in because that's not how it works. I AM a stockholder in other companies because I'm trying to profit off this broken fucked up system in any little way I can.

Maybe you should try buying stocks so you can see what the financial world looks like

[–] 20hzservers 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't know what you're talking about. Confidently incorrect.

[–] Aux 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Great argument! Shows deep knowledge of the topic and humongous intellect.

[–] 20hzservers 0 points 10 months ago

No point in arguing with the ignorant. Have a good one mate.

[–] 20hzservers 0 points 10 months ago