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For American sensibilities born from classical liberal values, you're correct.
The political "left" is a big umbrella term, like the "right" is. Generally speaking, the left broadly wants distribution of resources and management to be more horizontal. The debate is how to achieve that. Some want total worker control, others believe a democratically elected government should be empowered to distribute wealth equitably. The most extreme and dystopian form is a parental centralised authority enforcing equality should do it, as you mentioned.
On the right, they may believe in personal freedom but still uphold that human society still thrives in hierarchy. "You're homeless? It is your fault and not my problem." Many on the right believe you have to work hard to achieve your goals but through your own blood, sweat and tears. You have to keep up or you will be out competed. Some on the right still believe that government still has some role to help others, while some disagree. The most extreme form on the right is fascism, which advocates for total control of everything and order and hierarchy are utmost importance.
You never notice how the crazy old men hiding up alone in the mountains wanting to be left alone by the government and everyone are somehow always called right wing when the government comes for them, often in a very fascist manner?
You're talking about a cult leader.
Sometimes. Sometimes not, Anyways, there's something very fishy or inconsistent with all these definitions. Rational anarchism still falls right, not left tho
"Rational anarchism" isn't the only type of anarchism.
Yes, not really the point though.
Anarcho-syndicalism to left. Anarcho-capitalism to the right.
As others mentioned, you need to learn more about the topic.
did i mention anarcho syndicalism? FFS genius, the intial post described a right wing stance as left. All you mother fuckers need to read a book
I mentioned anarcho-syndicalism.
"Rational anarchism" isn't a thing. I Googled it, and you just read it from a sci-fi novel, which is not an authoritative and academic source on the topic.
READ an actual authoritative and academic book on the topic.
"I googled it and" clearly an expert. I mean you don't even seem to know what conversation you've joined
"Rational anarchism" is coined by a sci-fi novelist for his fictional story, and no respectable scholars have ever used it.
Horseshit
BTW, "rational anarchism" is an occasionally used synonym for "social libertarianism".
Says who? Social libertarians identify themselves as left.
...Jesus you people are painful. Libertarianism, Randian or not (this type is not), is a right leaning philosophy even if self identifiers bought into the false "right bad left good" dichotomy so many push. FFS half the people who identify as either type don't even know what they are ( or who John Galt was), they think it means do what you want whenever you want because the name resembles liberty, another term they barely understand.
Have you heard or seen Yanous Varoufakis rub shoulders with Trump, Orban, or Putin? Have you even heard of Yanous Varoufakis? He'd be offended if you describe him as being on right..
Which social libertarians call themselves "rational anarchist" synonymously?
Damn that's a tall strawman.
So, which social libertarians call themselves "rational anarchist"? And why are they politically right according to you?
Hillel Steiner comes to mind. You might be confusing "left libertarianism" with being left wing. It's still right, just not Randian right.
Left libertarianism is another term for social libertarianism, the latter in which you mentioned as "right".
And when did Steiner called himself "rational anarchist"?
Actually, where did you hear "rational anarchist" to begin with?
Yes, and rational anarchism is yet another synonym. Like I said, you people are fucking painful, full of fire and pedantry, signifying nothing
Who said rational anarchism is a thing? Where did you hear it? And why is it considered right wing?
"who said words have meaning?" "Why is English a thing?"
Who said social libertarianism is right wing? And what precisely is rational anarchism?