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Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war ‘supports second Trump term’
(www.theguardian.com)
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God fucking damnit...
I actually like whitmer, she seems to trend less partisan than most, but disparaging Biden does not make someone a fucking trump supporter...
A typical trump supporter is a jonestown-esque cult member. It's not someone who isn't kissing Bidens ring.
I'm sick as absolute fuck of the binary bullshit that you gotta choose red or blue... There's a purple libertarian party, and if you're really off kilter, there's the greens... Just because they only pull 2% of the votes doesn't mean they don't exist, you're still talking about millions of people.
Biden is a puppet, his whole administration has their hands up his ass making his mouth move while they all do the actual talking. That doesn't mean the Biden administration isn't doing well, and it sure as fuck doesn't mean trump is a good idea, but fuck Biden. Without supportimg trump, and without disparaging the way shits going...
Stop buying this shit, and whitmer, you should be ashamed of propagating it
Doesn’t matter. It’s still true in our system. You and I can pound sand. I choose to vote for Brandon, who will do far less damage to me and the rest of the world, over the alternative.
You don’t have to like it. But reality will assert itself, no matter your opinion.
Criticizing Biden? Sure, fine. But at election time, she's 100% correct that if you aren't voting for Biden, you're voting for Trump. There's literally very little difference in the end result.
In what way do you think she's incorrect? Let's say there's two people running for something, with ten voters, and five people vote for Person A. If three people vote for Person B, but two people decide they don't really like either candidate, so they don't vote, they've just elected Person A. If Person A is a complete shit show, and Person B is closer to desired but has failings, it makes much more sense to vote for Person B. They might wish they had a better choice, but they don't.
Is the FPTP “binary” choice bullshit? Yes. Are we going to fix it, and the electoral college, in six months? No.
End of debate. Save the world or don’t.
You don't like it, in fact I think most don't, including myself, but the truth is this is a two party system. And in this upcoming election, if you actually want to preserve any semblance of a democracy, as poor and shoddy as it might be, you vote for Biden. Any other vote just helps Trump by not helping Biden.
The very first presidential election I was eligible to vote in, one in six voters chose neither a Democrat nor a Republican.
If you want to preserve any semblance of democracy, stop buying the snake oil. We absolutely can vote for neither, and I go back far enough to have seen 18% of the population go out to the ballots and prove it.
What a bunch of shit. Perot didn't get a single electoral vote. He had zero chance of being president. At best he might have helped Clinton by skimming some votes from Bush.
Wallace is the next closest third party candidate that did anything of mention in the elections, he at least got some electoral votes, so is actually a better third party example. Should have been alive to vote for him.
All other third party candidates that got electoral votes in recent history were faithless electors. So, no, I reject your call to "preserve democracy" by pissing my ballot away and possibly helping a fascist dictator get back into the oval office. Thank you.
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