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Tesla-beating BYD and other Chinese carmakers using Mexico as back door poses ‘extinction-level’ threat to U.S. auto sector, warns trade group (fortune.com)
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China has become a powerhouse in electric vehicles. Its automaker BYD recently topped Tesla in global EV sales, with Elon Musk warning of Chinese carmakers, “If there are no trade barriers established, they will pretty much demolish most other car companies in the world. They’re extremely good.”

On Friday, the Alliance for American Manufacturing sounded the alarm, issuing a report entitled: “On a Collision Course: China’s Existential Threat to America’s Auto Industry and its Route Through Mexico.”

The report, which lists policy recommendations to combat overcapacity and unfair trade practices, notes that BYD is building factories in Thailand and Hungary designed to be regional export hubs. It then adds:

“More alarming, however, are Chinese firms’ heavy spending on plants in Mexico, through which they can access the United States by way of the more favorable tariffs under the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). This strategy is, in effect, an effort to gain backdoor access to American consumers by circumventing existing policies that are keeping China’s autos out of the U.S. market.”

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So basically the way Japan took prominence in the auto industry after the 1970s oil shocks?

Or how the Koreans moved from also-rans in CRTs to the forefront of the flat-panel display market?

Or how GM consumed the century-old locomotive industry during the rise of diesel?

A seismic change in an industry always invites new competitors. There's no room for Surprised Pikachu faces here.

The more interesting question: is this a classic Innovator's Dilemma: they don't want to compete with BYD on a $16k EV for a global market when they can still sell $40k petrol SUVs to a diminishing slice of the first world? Or is it an admission their processes and designs are so ossified that they can't compete?

Don't pull the cheap-labour card. If there's more than a $1000-per-car difference in price to build a car in a modern automated factory in China vs Mexico, then something is very wrong with your process.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My opinion is that the US and European incumbents are basically in the grip of the financial industry. All that counts are short term returns. Technically, they'd be up to the challenge but that would mean reduced margins in the short to medium term which is why it's not happening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And that's how they sealed their own fate. And they should face the consequences imo.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The problem is, the rest of the world are the ones who will end up suffering. The company runners mostly take their golden parachutes and peace out to a board position on one of the surviving companies while they sit on the beach near their thirteenth house.

They won't see any real consequences.

[–] Psychodelic 2 points 9 months ago

U mean, our fate

[–] Ross_audio 6 points 9 months ago

It isn't a true Innovators dilemma because the petrol cars they make don't require any further innovation.

All the innovation can happen in the EV drive train, any other innovations can apply equally to both ICE and EV models.

You're right the innovation is also on the production line.

The fact is China is investing in technology and innovation has halted or been misapplied elsewhere.

Look at Motorsport. Formula E is dominated by Stelantis but a European and American conglomerate. F1 by Europe and Japan. New technology in endurance racing by Europe and Japan.

The US has one high quality player in the EV power train world and that is because they joined with other companies.

The US has fallen into the middle ground of not being high quality, and not being cheap.

The US auto sector has globally fallen towards the missing middle. They can escape by going in either direction. Or European and Japanese makers will take the premium market while China takes the basic volume consumer market.