this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
119 points (87.9% liked)
Privacy
31993 readers
439 users here now
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
Related communities
Chat rooms
-
[Matrix/Element]Dead
much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
The issue is that Pixels are one of the only manufacturers that lets you install a custom ROM and re-lock your bootloader, which is an important security feature. Afaik only pixels and xaomi can do that, so they could expand it a bit, but tbh if those are my two options I'll take the pixel.
If you don't care about relocking your bootloader just use lineageOS or eOS, they aren't as secure, but if you don't want/need it to be as secure they do exist as options.
Edit: Relocking and https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices my mistake
Good to know for sure. I confuse the fairs/librems/pines sometimes, are the fairphones the ones that are hard to get in the US? Iirc the librem is the expensive one and the pine is the kinda not as good one, but I can't remember if it was the fairs or the librems that were hard to get in US.
Hopefully they get graphene working on it soon, that'd be awesome. Turns out it's a bit more than just the bootloader that they consider however: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices so looks like I was only partially correct lol.
Yeah, I don't know alot about fairphone but I know the latest model wasn't released in the US
Ah yeah well that'd def be an issue for US people. They look good though if we could get them lol, hopefully they'll make it to the US and get graphene soon!
I've relocked 3 different phones from Samsung, Nexus (was that the old pixel? dunno), and OnePlus 🤷♂️ Maybe it's because they were old (<2020) ? No idea.
CC BY-NC-SA 4.0
Turns out it's a bit more than just relocking the bootloader.
https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
Not sure what you're trying to point out. I responded to somebody saying it's not possible to relock other phones...
CC BY-NC-SA 4.0
https://lr.burger.rodeo/r/LineageOS/comments/n7yo7u/a_discussion_about_bootloader_lockingunlocking/gxiz8at/?context=3 Basically relocking without your own key is a bit pointless. But yes stand corrected that you can use your own key , it will just be a headache to do it. And generally about the pixel it's all about the titan chip. That makes it stand out. https://www.androidauthority.com/titan-m2-google-3261547/
Google's phones have always supported the full spec. OnePlus used to also do that, but quietly removed support for it. OnePlus 8T on Android 11 (last OxygenOS version) you could, but when they switched it to Oppo's ColorOS that got removed, that'd be 2021-2022 ish so that fits your experience.
For Samsungs, I don't know. They let you relock the bootloader with a custom ROM on it, not just after flashing back a stock image? And it does the whole verified boot dance, TPM works and everything?
The key feature here is relocking with your own keys and retain all the security features as if it was a manufacturer's build. Rollback protection and everything.
With your own key? Nope