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YSK: Signal is a great secure private messenger app comparable to others on the market.
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this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2023
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Since we're all using Lemmy, an open source, decentralized, self hostable platform, wouldn't suggesting Matrix make much more sense?
I host a Matrix and Lemmy server. Even if Signal is completely trustworthy now, will it always be? It isn't my server and it's a single point of attack for anybody (including governments) to insert (or demand) a backdoor.
I still try to understand Matrix.
I feel like there is a joke somewhere in here π
No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.
No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.
No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.
No pun intended. I tried a couple of times but I can't figured it out.
I feel like there is a joke somewhere in here π
FTFY:
Since we're all using Lemmy, an open source, decentralized, self hostable platform, wouldn't suggesting XMPP make much more sense?
Why xmpp over matrix? Seems generally like older tech that doesn't have modern chat features.
What unique features does Matrix have? All it brings to the table is segmentation in the FOSS communuty. Also its developers' background is sketchy as hell.
Googling a little, I might be misremembering limitations from a long time ago or from older IRC versions or something. Does it have async multi user rooms, reactions, and is it federated so I can stick to one log in? Not trying to be adversarial at all, these are just what I would miss if I didn't use matrix and I haven't really looked at xmpp since AIM days lol.
Reactions are a work in progress and one major client (Conversations) does not have them yet, the others do. It has been federated since early 2000s and had multi user rooms with history for at least the last decade that i've been using it.
Try it out one day, even if you continue to use Matrix day to day.
It is kinda slow, the clients it has are bad and also this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32780665#:~:text=based%20on...-,If%20you're%20privacy%20focused%2C%20do%20not%20use%20matrix%E2%80%A6,metadata%20it%20leaks%20is%20astonishing.&text=The%20metadata%20that%20Matrix%20%E2%80%9Cleaks,email%2C%20or%20OMEMO%20encrypted%20XMPP.
It may not be perfect yet, but ill take the superior design approach (decentralized and self hostable) any day. The details can be improved over time. Matrix can improve its metadata handling, signal will never be decentralized and self hostable.
On top of that, if you get your friends and family on your instance like I have, the metadata isnt even a problem since everything is contained on my server anyway.
Weβre using it and itβs fast and the Element client is great.
See how fast it is on a server with a lot of people and messages, it gets slower and slower over time