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[–] themurphy 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let them get fucked by EU fines then? At least they are big enough to not just be a slap on the wrist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’m betting they are following the letter of the law perfectly, since the spirit of the law is being violated so blatantly.

They likely had their lawyers pour over things to make sure they are exploiting every possible loophole.

[–] abhibeckert 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I’m betting they are following the letter of the law perfectly

Have you read the law, or is that just a blind bet? Spoiler, here's a quote from the legislation (Article 5, item 4):

The gatekeeper shall allow business users, free of charge, to communicate and promote offers, including under different conditions, to end users acquired via its core platform service or through other channels, and to conclude contracts with those end users, regardless of whether, for that purpose, they use the core platform services of the gatekeeper.

I bolded the most obvious point - Apple is charging a core technology fee (50 cents per user per year) even though the letter of the law is "free of charge".

More broadly, there's a fundamental problem that apps distributed are required to be submitted to Apple for approval even if they're distributed out side the store. Apple says they will check less things, but obviously they are still checking some things and will still reject some apps. Developers are also required to a "core platform service" operated by Apple in order to do that submission and pay those fees. Apple can't require that, as I read the legislation they have to allow developers to distribute apps without using or agreeing to any terms with Apple.

The legislation does allow Apple to block apps that are malware/etc - but the company is going far beyond that.

They likely had their lawyers pour over things to make sure they are exploiting every possible loophole.

I don't think that's what has happened. Apple has one of the best legal teams int he world, there's no way they missed that "free of charge" requirement. I think they had their lawyers poor over things to find some way to avoid complying with the law in a way that will require years of ongoing investigations and lawsuits between Apple and the EU. Meanwhile the status quo continues and all apps go through the App Store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Are you sure you’re not misunderstanding the quoted section? To me, admittedly not a lawyer, that reads like “Apple has to allow Netflix to say “hey, you can get this cheaper through this other button that is different than the Apple Pay option” without charging the developer for that “privledge”” while you seem to be taking it as “Apple has to allow third party payment without taking a cut.”

This is what I’m talking about. If there is any ambiguity, their lawyers will pounce on it. Even if it means they get a slap on the wrist, they can turn around and say “oh, sorry, the legislation wasn’t totally clear we will get that fixed real quick in a year, these things take time after all.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Violating the spirit of the law is still violating the law, at least in Germany; the EU may have similar rules.