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Weighted to reflect the population, 62% chose to rejoin, 35% to stay out while 3% were unsure or offering no opinion.

In the original 2016 referendum, the UK-wide result narrowly passed Brexit by 51.89%. At the time in north, 56% of voters had chosen to remain with 44% choosing to leave.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Maybe lets use the opportunity to flip the script. Reunite Ireland and offer Scotland to join, creating the United Republic of Ireland and Scotland.

Then demand the UK to change it's name to Kingdom of England and Wales as a prerequisite to any negotiations with the EU

[โ€“] Ross_audio 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wales isn't a kingdom. It's a principality of England.

Without Scotland it isn't a unity of kingdoms at all.

Edward I took over Wales while divided and it's been a principality of the English crown since.

If Scotland becomes independent it's logically back to "England" officially.

If England still has sovereignty over Wales and Northern Ireland one is a principality, the other a territory. Neither is a kingdom capable of forming a union of kingdoms.

Another name might be chosen but "United Kingdom" wouldn't be accurate anymore. If it stayed the same it would be an anachronism.

[โ€“] EarMaster 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Forgive if I'm wrong (not a native speaker), but why does United Kingdom implies several kingdoms to be united. Couldn't it be a kingdom which united several previously independent territories?

[โ€“] Ross_audio 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This issue with that is Wales and Northern Ireland haven't been independent territories either.

England conquered them. They haven't voluntarily joined a union, they have been conquered.

Northern Ireland with "power sharing" meaning they cannot elect a democratic parliament is essentially is run as a colony. The only caveat being they do have seats in the UK parliament.

Wales is a semi-autonomous part of England with a local government having some say but no ultimate control should the national government decide against something. Again they have seats in the national parliament so they aren't a colony.

Essentially in any other place Wales would be just part of England, not a separate country. Not a separate territory as there's no significance to the border except a historical one.

[โ€“] TheGrandNagus 1 points 1 year ago

Wales is not part of England. Please stop spreading misinformation.

Wales is part of the UK.

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