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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I really didn't like how they handled the trans episodes. Pretty much all of it was done badly but you can tell the writers think they did a great job.

For one the way it's presented, the child in question had their sex changed at birth without their consent/awareness and they simply reversed that later on. It sets up a reading where one can interpret the show as saying the gender you are born as is the one you really should be. And this is how some people have interpreted the show.

I think the writers tried to take the "assigned x at birth" terminology and make it literal but the way its done just doesn't actually work.

Also the in universe drama doesn't make a lot of sense. They make a big deal of worrying about how big of a decision it would be for the kid to change their sex. But in the show the procedure to change sex is pretty much magic and would be perfectly reversible with the technology they have. It's not a big decision actually, if they found they didn't like it they could go back at any time no problem. It doesn't make any sense.

And the way the transition is presented as pretty much just magic poof, next scene now you are girl, makes its completely unrelatable to real world trans experiences. The trans experience is completely removed from the depiction. It does nothing to actually show a cis audience what it's like to transition.

Lastly, the characters not once actually say the word trans or transgender. This is suppose to be humanity in the future. The characters should know about trans issues but they write it as if they don't, its bizarre.

If they really wanted to do it right they should have just had a real trans story. No dumb sci-fi set up where their sex was changed at birth. The kid should have just organically been shown to discover their gender identity over a few seasons. Shown a realistic transition where things take time, lots of experimentation with presentation and the like. Actually identified themselves as trans. It could have been great but what was shown was very much written by the cis for the cis.

[–] thezeesystem 5 points 10 months ago

I didn't respond to people saying about it being good because I didn't know how to express ot right. But this is exactly what I was thinking about. Thank you for this. This explains what I ment about it. As someone who is trans the whole trans thing just felt really fucked up and wrong and I didn't know exactly why just hated it. Now I understand it better.