this post was submitted on 16 Feb 2024
739 points (99.3% liked)

World News

39179 readers
4404 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] kescusay 96 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Not half. Never forget that the insane, reactionary conservatives are a minority in this country. They're just extremely loud.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

They're only a "minority" because a third of the country will happily sit on the sidelines while they try to kill the other third.

[–] scarabic 20 points 9 months ago

They’re a solid 30%. Which means they’re life or death for their party. Which means they get their way. They’re as influential as any other group, or even more successful than others with similar numbers. I don’t see how we can just wave that away as “they’re a minority.”

[–] Blue_Morpho 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are a minority by population but US elections are by county and state. This is the last presidential election:

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2020_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg#mw-jump-to-license

Everyone thinks that because Biden won the last election everything is fine and they can go back to ignoring elections.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

US elections are mostly by state not by county. You can see states that voted blue despite being majority red on the county level. And Alaska is the opposite example where county level seems more blue but the state is red. It's a misleading map because it doesn't represent population density. Most of red counties are low population areas.

The state distribution however is kinda BS, but the real reason republicans can have power with a clear minority is because of the FPTP voting that prefers a two party system instead of a multiparty system. GOP would be far more fringe party if more alternatives existed.

[–] Dkarma 11 points 9 months ago

Half the people who vote. Technically the others don't matter to the system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Oh, I know, speaking in euphemisms. Maybe I should have said half the electorate (which I know is still not completely accurate). Point is, there is a real chance he gets elected and if so, we’re fucked. I’m not taking chances by downplaying the danger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why you call insane right-wing reformists conservatives?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because conservatives have always been insane right-wing "reformists".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

When someone wants turn your country into shithole that iy is they are reformists. Reformists and conservatives aren't good and bad. In some countries (15-ish former republics) conservatives are left-wing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The conservative movement traces directly back to royalists following the French revolution. They looked at the same world as Marx and decided to go the exact opposite way. Ultimately, conservatives are feudalistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They were conservatives back there back then.