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Also a huge number of people in the US travel to places that are walkable:

  • Disney World
  • Las Vegas (The strip is anyway)
  • DC
  • NYC
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[–] PP_BOY_ 41 points 10 months ago (6 children)

car free community

cover photo shows both a car and parking lot

I'm just being pedantic but this just shows how ingrained cars are in modern society that even "car-free" communities need them

[–] QuikxSpec 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also Disney is not designed for public use. It’s built to extract as much money out of you without leaving their property.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

The strip is designed for that as well

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

And yet people enjoy it.

Maybe we should build our city centers the same way then.

[–] Gigasser 9 points 10 months ago

Probably more accurate to say it's a car optional community? Or walkable community? Or even arcology?

[–] set_secret 9 points 10 months ago

tree free too apparently

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I agree with you. Being 100% without a car is hard in most cases.

And the answer I see is trains. For the amount of money that does into the car industry (+ multi lane roads, administration, maintenance, etc) we could have super fancy, comfy, fast, frequent, and cheap/free trains.

And people would have more mobility too, at a fraction of the cost and environmental damage.

[–] SinningStromgald 8 points 10 months ago

Robust public transit is the obvious answer to ridding ourselves of the car menace. Now, I need a few hundred billion dollars to "lobby" this into existence.

[–] PP_BOY_ 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Trains for long distance + trolleys and subways for local travel. There will invariably be people whose transportation needs require a private vehicle but this combo alone would clear up the majority of cars on the road in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Yes, exactly this.

I would love all city roads to look like this (but non-monoculture, have some flowers):

[–] nickhammes 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even in countries with pretty good public transit like the UK and Germany, a large majority of families have a private vehicle. If we had better trains and subways in the US, I don't think too many people would sell their cars, but only use them once or twice a week, rather than once or twice a day.

That's a huge win in my book.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

UK and Germany don't have good public transport, maybe except for individual cities. Switzerland on the other hand has good and frequent public transport nationwide.

[–] nickhammes 2 points 10 months ago

As an American who has experienced Deutsche Bahn, National Rail, and Amtrak, I'll stand by Germany and the UK having pretty good inter-city rail compared to us. Lübeck and Bath are the cities there I've been with the worst public transit, and they would be well above average in the US.

I haven't been to Switzerland yet, but it's not shocking to hear the public transit there is all-around better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The trains in Japans greater Tokyo area were amazing when I went to visit. 99 percent of the time they took like 3 or 4 minites more than taking a car and I didn't need tk worry about parking or driving.

[–] glimse -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Bicycles with trailers? Could work for a lot of packages I order anyways.