this post was submitted on 12 Feb 2024
412 points (98.1% liked)
World News
32501 readers
917 users here now
News from around the world!
Rules:
-
Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc
-
No NSFW content
-
No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
it matters. one is an accelerationist the other is a conservative of the status quo. neither are going to improve anything but one will try his most to destroy any confidence.
Talking about Biden? You know, the one currently supporting a genocide? I'd think that counts as trying "his most to destroy any confidence"
Biden never implied there was a chance the US would abandon its NATO allies in case of a war, Trump did.
Pro-Trump argument? Didn't expect that here. Regardless, it'd be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself and limit their ability to commit their imperialism in the middle-east (and across the world), but that's just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like the US allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War.
Unfortunately the US would never truly antagonize NATO; Trump would just be assassinated and replaced like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA, not that Trump would actually go through with it. He isn't any better than Biden.
The only way the US would improve is if a leftist org took power over this thinly-veiled imperialist oligarch altogether from outside its political system, which is designed to prevent leftward movement in the first place.
Also uh, I don't think US's ongoing genocide victims care about that.
They would if they threatened the imperial core's ability to commit their imperialism.
What an obnoxious statement lol. Only the US (and its allies) are built from centuries of capitalist colonialism, and are greatly benefiting from ongoing neocolonialism of those same "former" colonies through the IMF and World Bank. They are also the ones waging countless wars across the Middle East and Asia (Iraq, Vietnam, etc), coup'ing Africa's and Latin America's governments (Chile, Congo, etc), keeping them unstable and unable to unite and stand on their own so they have no choice but to rely on those exploitative institutions, and brutally sanctioning and embargo'ing those that do manage to escape their grasp (like Cuba)
China, and even modern capitalist Russia, for all their flaws, are not even comparable to the sheer amount of suffering the US has inflicted, and continues to do so. There's a reason songs like this are common across the developing world. No one outside the imperial core sees China or Russia as anywhere near equivalent to the US, for good reason.
As someone from the "third world", you're absolutely spot on.
And thank you for putting into words what so many think, i don't think i could have done it as well as you did.
🫂
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
songs like this are common across the developing world
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
germany is doing the same. so i guess confidence isn't being destroyed between those two. but is was talking about the american isolationist trump.
Damn you really destroyed my comment there 😔
Sure sure.
Are you voting for genocide and climate apocalypse or genocide and climate apocalypse?
Congratulations. You have simplified complex politics too such a degree that it fits in your narrative. First off, I don’t vote in this case, because I’m not American. Second, I still would vote for the person who didn’t try a fucking insurrection.
...but would vote for someone committing a genocide? I think your balance is a bit off there
Hey bro, you are aware of US Politics, right? You know that the US has always supported Israel, right???
Slavery was abolished in the US in the year 1865
People in 1864: "Hey bro, you are aware of US Politics, right? You know that the US has always had slaves, right???"
Also one minor nitpick, slavery is alive and well in the US, it was never abolished. You guys will figure it out some day.
True, it's still very much practiced in US prisons. Should've specified "officially" ig.
Prison slavery is very official. It’s carved out as legal in the constitution, and it is pretty out in the open. The main thing is that we use a bunch of euphemisms to make the slavers and beneficiaries feel less bad about themselves, but they don’t hide it.
No worries, not my country either so I honestly don't know what I'd do in that situation. Third party probably.
Only real option in the US (and most capitalist countries tbf) is joining a leftist org outside the system that aims to take control over it altogether like FRSO or PSL imo. Aka educate, organize, agitate.
Capitalist political systems are designed to prevent any leftward movement (if anyone in power does try to, like JFK for wanting to abolish the CIA and giving an anti-colonial speech, they are assassinated and replaced), so working inside it is mostly meaningless. They can only shift further to the right.
Well said
Your*
Hey apparently I'm a part of your brigade. Do I get paid or something now? Maybe even just some hashbrowns?
You get to attend my little brigade party! :D
Yes there will be hashbrowns
Lol, what??
There was a little grammatical error you missed here friend
Dude! Dude!!!!!
Are you trying to tell that it’s actually „your an idiot“????
AHAAAHAAHAAAAA!!!!!!
Uhh that's not the part I quoted
"Everyone in this thread is an idiot but me"
Hahaha tell us how you really feel.
I feel like I’m surrounded by idiots.
Hey at least we know where you got it from 🫂
I wouldn't know that sorry.
You're all a bunch of suckers. There is no side to avoid tyrrany. Six one way half a dozen the other.
Doesn't matter. Everyone will die by 2030 and that doesn't even count Nukes.
It'll take longer than 2030 but yeah pretty much.
Only if we do fucking anything to stop what we've already done and are doing at as massive an exponentially increasing rate.
You're wrong. If it ain't the baking this planet conduct then it'll be a virus, bio- or tech- cuz it don't matter, AI etc.
It would have to be global crop failure and famine followed by total nuclear war in order to achieve that. So maybe you're right, guess we'll see.
Nuke not necessary and we won't be able to see it cuz that kind of part of the definition of its occurance.
Fair enough
Everybody feels that way.