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Allies fear the US is becoming less reliable, with growing concern over a possible Trump return (apnews.com)

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's more than two parties to choose from. There's only two realistic choices because as a population you all choose to make it that way.

Don't get me wrong, the US isn't alone here. We have the same problem here in the UK. I usually vote for a third party that more aligns with my own views, not one of the main two, and people tell me I "wasted my vote". My response is: Did I waste my vote, or did you?

Simpsons of course parodied the situation best when the two aliens both ran for president.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There’s more than two parties to choose from.

Technically true, but there is no real choice. The US doesn't have a proportional voting system but uses first past the post voting. This by default will result in a two party system. If one party splits up or loses voter to a third party, the remaining party will utterly dominate the politics until one of the other party comes up on top again.

Sane countries do have a proportional voting system which allows several parties to flourish.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's the point I (and the simpsons) is making though. If people didn't vote for one of the two parties because "anything else is a wasted vote". Even with FPTP you'd get a more varies result, at the very least in the upper/lower houses.

But that doesn't happen, and that's how they have us all by the balls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that doesn’t happen, and that’s how they have us all by the balls.

Well that's very easy when one party openly is working to destroy the whole democratic system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Very specifically, in the upcoming US election. Going to say, yes you need to stop a certain tyrant from getting another term. But as a general comment this happens regardless.

Even all the years, at least in the UK, for quite some time a decade or so ago we had two parties, one that was 1mm left of centre and the other 1mm right of centre. If people didn't like the fact they had a choice of Kang or Kodos, they did. But, everyone voted that way anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

That's great in theory but there's this thing called the collective action problem that pretty much explains why that can't / won't happen.

[–] go_go_gadget -1 points 10 months ago

you all choose to make it that way.

Boomers make it that way. They've made it that way for decades.