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[–] pieplot 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Let’s not pretend that racist or xenophobic people don’t exist in Canada. Ignoring them would be a very dangerous thing to do, Canadians don’t need external influence to be racist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The external influence sure helps galvanize people though.

[–] pieplot 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course, but this is true for any political movement, even if it’s the one you’re rooting for. It’s a bit far fetched, but would you say that leftist people in Canada are strongly getting influenced by people like Bernie Sanders and AOC and that it should be considered foreign interference?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I would make the argument that Canadian media isn't being bought by leftist ownership groups from the US in the same way as, for example, Postmedia has almost monopolized Canadian newspapers through American right wing ownership. Major media seems like a more direct and present form of political influence than a more natural spread through observation like what I believe you're describing.

[–] pieplot 4 points 1 year ago

Yep I can agree on this point, you’re right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

...would you say that leftist people in Canada are strongly getting influenced by people like Bernie Sanders and AOC and that it should be considered foreign interference?

No, because Sanders and Cortez would be centrists to mildly leftist in Canada. Half the Liberal party, most of the Bloc and all of the NDP are well to the left of Sanders.

Only in the US, where the Overton window is from "mildly corporatist neoliberalism" to "full-throated fascism" do people like Sanders seem at all radical.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, but having that fringe minority amplified by louder and better funded outside influences isn't improving the situation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Sure, but at least then it can be internal.