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Another CEO for mozilla. Good or bad news?

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[–] EdibleFriend 57 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've known Mozilla being great wouldn't last forever, and there it is. Someone from those companies at the helm? Here comes the enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hard to say. You kind of want someone that was part of a successful product. And successful for-profit products are almost always menaces.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Yes, but hiring someone who's good at making for-profit "services" successful generally means you want your product to be for-profit.

And as you say, successful for-profit companies are often menaces.

[–] EdibleFriend 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Would you call any of those successful products 'good' tho? Yes they have made a lot of money but at the same time....2 of 3 are straight up evil. Ebay...eh. Could be worse. Thats the best I can say for them. Paypal has straight up stolen people's money on countless occasions and gotten away with it. Then there was that huge violin fiasco. Airbnb is flat out a part of destroying the housing market, they know this, they don't care.

I get it, most big companies are 'menaces' like you say but...these are absolutely horrible companies responsible for true evil and, odds are, he's going to bring that energy to Mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I don't really disagree, but what do you want as an organization, someone that built a "good" product that nobody ever used and fell into obscurity? Or someone that built a product that attracted and retained millions of users that you might consider "bad"? And tbh, most of the "bad" from these products is just because of their size and monopoly, which would arguably be a good problem to have for Mozilla.

Probably an easy choice if I was on the board.

Also, not that it matters to our discussion but just as a minor correction, the new CEO is a woman.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We can version freeze forever. Anything that won't work in 2023 firefox is probably trash anyway.

[–] netburnr 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you can't. There are cert stores, new protocols and ciphers, and eventually u patched zero days.

I know this because I've been playing with a g3 powerboat and all the browsers at this point are no longer maintained to support the above things as of last year. The last person working on it gave up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Not much of problem. Run in a VM, disable certificate validation. Html5 and javascript is still going to last a long long time. Anything that can't run with that is soydev shit and you don't need it.

[–] LibreFish 1 points 9 months ago

Called palemoon, except version freeze is much older.

Anything else will goatsy your computer to all forms of zero days.