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Again, install Linux already and be done with this shit.
That's always so easy to say, isn't it?
Far easier to do too. I did one of each last month and there's no question that the Windows setup experience is terrible in comparison.
The software and hardware I'm using won't work on Linux.
And that's the part that everyone ignores. They'll say open a VM or use wine or there's an open source alternative. But if I'm going to run native Linux just to open a windows VM to run the primary software I use, what's the point? I'm not bashing on either side. I use Windows when I need and, and go back to Linux when I'm finished, but that's because that's the solution that works for me.
Same here, to a certain extent.
I was referring only to Linux's lack of bullshittery in comparison to Windows, nothing else.
File the required issues with those manufacturers then. Support for Linux is trivially easy to add compared to Microsoft: the kernel sources and stuff to create your modules are right there.
That works until they explicitly say they won’t support Linux, eg. Adobe, Bungie, GoXLR, etc
Plenty of companies know that it’s trivial to implement. They just simply do not care, nor will they ever care.
I wanna switch to Linux, but it just won't work.
Linux community arrogance is to deny the device driver issues and think Apple is fine, when the reason Apple thrives is because they don't have open hardware like Linux, BSD, Windows...
Hardware companies are rarely held account for their absent support of Linux - some campaigns have come and gone, but in the end Linux users tend to arrogantly say it's trivial to switch and embrace dishonesty. I guess they figure Microsoft is dishonest, so they normalize it.
100% same
I was needing to boot back to windows multiple times per day to accomplish simple tasks, and that made Linux no longer worth the hassle.
Linux users are what everyone says vegans are.
But they speak from a high a position of superiority and rightness.
I'd rather be vegan than a Windows user.
When Linux gets around to supporting all the games I like I will
It will never support 100% of games. Mainly due to extremly agresive anti cheats that are the same as root kits.
You mean, when your games get around to supporting Linux, right? File the required issues with those manufacturers.
~~Alright, continue to suffer on Windows. Or fix it yourself.~~
Edit: I should have taken a different approach. It is difficult for older games or games specifically made for the Windows System. However there are many efforts made by good people. Valve's Proton is doing good things and Lutris is also making it easier. I am not expecting that all the games will run however there a few options that others made such as filing issues with the manufacturers or supporting projects that try to port it / fix it in some other way.
Is this how you advocate for Linux?
Again, I am an idiot. So taken down the bad comment. Don't assume and react based on those assumptions, me.
I am hungry and probably should go out for a snack.
Quoting the conversation you replied to:
Yes, the wording of "when Linux gets around to supporting" was bad and can be interpreted as "Linux needs to do the work". We who are familiar with Linux know that game support depends on the game's developer, not on any certain OS or plarform. You need to keep in mind that not everyone is as proficient with operating systems as we are, and thus not everybody might be aware who is at fault for lack of support.
You belittled the person in your comment, first assuming that they "suffer" on Windows, and then telling them to fix it themselves. You can't have meant that genuinely; after recognizing that they misunderstood the support situation, it should have been obvious to you that they're not capable of fixing the support themselves. So it must have been a snarky remark of yours and little more.
Instead of being this condescending, your comment should have been educational, explaining whose fault the lack of support actually is. Not even necessarily for the person you replied to, but for the sake of everyone else who finds this thread at a later point in time.
Even if you don't need Linux to win, I ask you that you consider how your comments reflect on the Linux community at large. What will people think when they see how you reply to people voicing their concerns?
Would you be happy being part of a community that although representing a genuine effort towards freedom from big tech, is perceived as elitist and insular by outsiders? I use Linux too, and I wouldn't be.
You make a valid point, I shall address my comments made. My assumptions made are a bit crass and short-sighted.
Why bother trying to convince people like you who only complain about Windows, but are way too lazy to do anything about? It's just a waste of my time. I'd much rather gloat about how I don't have to deal with crap like this. Don't come on here and expect sympathy for something that is entirely within your power to change.
Alright, go ahead and do that. Surely that'll help the mainstream perception of Linux and its community.
No, I don’t want too.