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Holy hell, the miniskirts. I know it was progressive for its time, women's lib, etc. But: Female officers bending over console, butt swell hanging out. Almost every episode, over sexualized women needlessly emotional, constantly falling into male arms. Barely clothed, wisps of fabric. Spock saying that Kirk's alter ego trying to rape his female officer made him interesting.

I'm at episode 14, 1st season. Is the rest of the series like this?

That said, there's a hard, pure science to it I haven't seen in later star treks. Can see how people then would find it fascinating. Also gets deep, in a weighty, high drama way.

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[–] ummthatguy 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely a product of its time. Wouldn't pass muster by today's standards, but viewed as a window into the past's vision of the future makes it worthwhile. They still pushed boundaries and tried to get away with plenty, but yeah, lots of underbutt and fainty-dainty female characters.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm gonna stick with it, keep watching. Have watched all other star treks repeatedly most of my life. Seeing TOS for the 1st time, definitely a window into the past, but I'm liking the positive aspects of it. Can understand now how it's been so long lasting, all the different versions, where it all started.

[–] ummthatguy 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Glad to know it hasn't disheartened your outlook. I started out with TNG, then rolled back to TOS. Definitely a stark contrast, but great in its own way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

TNG was my 1st trek too. Having watched all star treks over the decades, it's fascinating, the diversity, different approaches, how it's evolved as society has evolved.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

There are some really really great episodes, and some seriously terrible ones. For me the high points far outweigh the low points and the bad stuff you can usually laugh with due to its age.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

And these days it's hottub streams and a plethora of other even worse lewd content. It's most certainly accepted by today's standards they just have to 'choose' to do it instead of some executive dictating it.