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Neither Hamas' goals nor their methods are "genocidal". They don't call for the eradication of Jewish people. You can argue that if these massacres like October 7th continue, you can have a case for genocide. But now? Nah.
Wholesale slaughter of civilians based on ethnicity and targeting of civilians centers based on the predominant ethnicity isn't genocidal in method?
What would it take, theoretically, to convince you that Hamas's goals remain genocidal? Other, of course, than their murderous actions?
I can find a great deal to dispute this.
Hence my statement that it wasn't genocidal "Only for lack of success."
This isn't the first such attack. This isn't even the second or the third. This is just the most successful one so far.
Cool, show me where in their latest charter? Or examples from its leaders?
How many will it take for you to concede the point? Just so I know when to stop collecting.
I mean, enough to show that they are unhinged and with no criticism or action coming towards them from Hamas?
I guess hold them up to the standard similar to or a hit below that of demonstrating that Israel is outspoken about its genocidal intent. Israel is pretty open about it so it might be hard to demonstrate it that clearly as is the case with Israel lol
Ismail Haniyeh, current leader/chairman of Hamas, in 2020
Hamad Al-Regeb, an official Sheikh (elder official) of Hamas, 2023
Saleh Al-Arouri, now-deceased Deputy Chairman of Hamas, 2023
I literally can't go on because I'm running up against the word count limit at this point, but I hope this gives you something of an idea of what I mean.
Yeah fair enough.