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The most important election of our lifetime, again and again and again... (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by return2ozma to c/politicalmemes
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I came here to argue against this increasingly-transparent "please don't vote" propaganda being posted here coincidentally in this leftist community, and here's this unanimous comment section already on the case 😃

[–] return2ozma -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying don't vote, I'll be voting as I have in every election, including in the 2024 primary and general.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Nothing will fundamentally change

F Biden

I could see a lot of Dem voters just staying home instead

Many Arab-Americans in Michigan (and across the country) are running an "Abandon Biden" message

Nobody is saying don't vote

(Edit: That's are all quotes of yours from the last 1 day which I would roughly summarize as "don't vote.")

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying don't vote

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i've had options on my ballot besides democrats or republicans every year

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Working to oust the establishment Democrats and push the remainder to the left sounds great. Increasing fairness in the voting system sounds great. Protest outside the voting system sounds great. Lots of things aside from just pulling the lever for the least-bad guy are actually extremely impactful.

None of that changes the fact that voting for a third party in this election is functionally equivalent to sitting at home waiting for it all to get better on its own which is functionally equivalent to handing Trump the keys to the FBI and the nuclear codes and hoping it all goes okay. For that reason I feel just as comfortable criticizing a vote for a third party (in the general election) as I do a non-vote, both in terms of whether it's a good idea to spread propaganda about it online, and whether it's a good idea to do it when the time comes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

>voting for a third party in this election is functionally equivalent to sitting at home waiting for it all to get better

this sounds like you are trying to suppress voters who would otherwise vote. why would you suppress voting? I thought that was a Republican thing.

[–] return2ozma -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And you took all of those out of context. Put the full sentences

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: Sure. Here are the full text of some quotes from you from today, which to me effectively boil down to "don't vote":

Which Democrats are actually Leftist and not just centrist or Republican-lite? Bernie? AOC? We tried and the Dem party/oligarchy shut that down real quick.

Trump and the GOP is the enemy. Biden and the Democrats, to me, are also the enemy to the people because they want the status quo to continue. “Nothing will fundamentally change.” I feel we’re going to get fascism either way. One is accelerated and the other is a slow death march.

F Trump and F Biden. Both don’t care about the people.

I don’t think many will go from voting Dem to Trump but I could see a lot of Dem voters just staying home instead.

Many Arab-Americans in Michigan (and across the country) are running an “Abandon Biden” message over Biden’s handling of the Gaza genocide.

[–] return2ozma -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

due to how formatting works in fedilab, I was very confused until I figured out these are quotes and they think the quotes somehow support their position.