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And opened more coal plants too lol, don't be quick in praising the CCP, there's always something shady in the background...
And systematically genociding their minorities too. Let's never forget that.
tankie army has been activated
Tankie army got nuked into oblivion... Thank goodness.
I still can't wrap my head around the case for genocide in China. Political and religious oppression is evident, but aside from grainy photos of some prisoners, but I haven't seen evidence of genocide. People are saying it though so... I guess it could be true?
This is not just a theory. There are evidences. Until you relay CCP propaganda.
they are from .ML, a major tankie instance, with major love for Pooty/Russia and Pooh Bear/China and irrational hatred for anything Not Russia/China. Soooo.. Yeah.
are there?
is there credible evidence beyond pictures of random prisioners?
Yes, tankie. A simple Google Search will answer your dishonest question.
all i see is articles from corporate us/uk media making extraordinary claims without extraordinary proof. nothing being said in my native tongue about it that isnt direct reference to the aforementioned outlets.
tell me, fascist, where is all that proof?
Tell you what. I'll deny there is any genocide in Gaza on the exact same basis that you're denying it for the Uyghurs. Does that work for you? If it really has to be "extraordinary", then it has to be applied equally.
Or is this not something like, say, UFOs or homeopathy where we actually need extraordinary evidence?
There is evidence of significant mistreatment of Uyghurs in China. The poster is a deliberate liar covering the interest of the government of China. This is a matter for moderators, they're not talking in good faith.
I know. I specifically want to target this phrase "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", because I've noticed it being increasingly abused to ignore evidence.
'significant mistreatment' is a big step down from genocide, even then I would love to see the evidence for it and adjust my view of the situation.
Not the same basis at all. You can't deny there is genocide in Gaza because there is extensive photographic and video evidence, aid openly going from the US to Israel, plenty of refugees seeking asylum in neighbouring countries, palestine voices talking about it and so on. Israel themselves seem pretty nonchalant about it. Similar but not equal evidence arose in Armenia, apartheid South Africa, nazi Germany and so on.
There are pictures of unidentified prisioners and some corporate media used to make pretty extraordinary (as in out of the ordinary) claims about them. No we don't need as much proof as UFOs, its not even on the same ballpark.
So I can repeat my reasoning with more context: Where is all that evidence of Muslims being genocided by the droves over there?
Nah, all I see are pictures from Russian outlets.
See how easy that was to pretend there is no evidence?
what do you even mean, should i even try to argue with this in good faith?
you can literally find publications from all around the world doing original hands-on journalism about it on the first few pages of google.
im literally asking for all that evidence on every post now. all i can find is, yet again, pictures of random unidentifiable prisioners with wild conspiracies about them being part of a secret genocide.
No, you should go back to the cesspool of thoughtless praxis that is .ml.
Do not feed the troll. They're fighting for mindspace. Just answering the top-level comments denies them the right to exist without direct contradiction.
We know they're lying, and everyone really willing to challenge the idea will find enough on the Internet to find the right anwser. Now's the right time for you to disengage. No need to give a platform to those disgusting nazis.
Mission accomplished. More tankies banned.
hahaahahahha k
Go back to nazbear, revisionist tankie. There is proof available with a simple Google search.
And I can fault China for their actions just like I can blame the US for sponsoring the massacre in Gaza, which I vehemently reject. So your whack theory falls flat.
Most people except China know the truth about what happened in Xinjiang.
Bullshit, I've already seen pictures and videos of it, a few years ago. Lots of us have too.
Go back to nazbear, revisionist tankie. There is proof available with a simple Google search.
And I can fault China for their actions just like I can blame the US for sponsoring the massacre in Gaza, which I vehemently reject. So your whack theory falls flat.
Most people except China know the truth about what happened in Xinjiang.
preceding the points you mentioned, i stopped believing it when the league of arab nations went to investigate and found nothing.
China's CO2 output is expected to fall in the coming year, and for structural reasons, stay that way for years to come.
https://energyandcleanair.org/analysis-chinas-emissions-set-to-fall-in-2024-after-record-growth-in-clean-energy/
China is doing something good: here's why it's bad.
China is still developing and allowing European countries and the US to pollute unchecked but clutch your pearls when China and other countries do the same is ideological.
This article is evidence that China is putting effort forward on renewables. Meanwhile, Germany is opening coal plants and the US can't get a handle on anything at all.
It's not really shady now is it? There is no way solar can provide enough power for the entire country of china.