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[–] acceptable_pumpkin -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This tired argument again. So what’s your proposal? Throw away your vote on a 3rd party candidate this election cycle? Not vote?

So if Trump wins, do you honestly believe things would be better? Nothing will change in Israel, except we’d have all sorts of new humanitarian problems across the globe.

[–] Kentifer 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If Biden loses, it will be because not enough people were convinced to vote for him. So if dems want to prevent a Trump presidency, the smart move probably would be (or would have been, maybe, since y'all think it's too late) for Biden to step down and endorse a Dem who has not openly supported Israel's current campaign. That is, if they think that those voters are necessary to win. If they think those voters can be written off and they'll still win, let 'em try. No politician is owed a vote simply because they are the incumbent, though. Nor are they owed the votes of people who are displeased with their work. They hoping that everyone will just fall in line on election day. What if that doesn't happen? Do you think the future of our country is something that octogenarians should be gambling with?

[–] acceptable_pumpkin -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same naive or shill arguments. Look beyond your hatred of Biden and see what is at stake with a Trump presidency.

Unfortunately the support for Israel is common across most of our elected representatives for better or worse. I’m all for trying to get someone more progressive and younger in as the Democrat candidate, but the reality is that it will almost certainly be Biden vs Trump. Given that reality, voting 3rd party or not voting will only help Trump, so unless that’s your plan, that is in effect what will happen.

[–] Kentifer 4 points 10 months ago

I can do that too: LoOk bEyOnD YoUr FeAr Of TrUmP.

Would love to know who I'm shilling for. They owe me money.