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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but from what I know of Islam, "Islamic outlook and foundation" = far right. To be fair, I would say the same if you replaced Islamic with "Christian" or "Jewish." Seems to me, without the religious us vs them, this would be a few degrees easier to solve.

[–] PanArab 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Settler colonialism has no religion. Hamas has made it clear that their war is strictly against Zionist settlers and the occupation government who happen to be Jewish. It is not a struggle against Jewish people.

From the Hamas Charter:

  1. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
  1. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.

Source: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hamas-2017-document-of-general-principles-and-policies

I find it hard to believe that Ben-Gurion was able to empathize with Palestinians more than westerners today, he said and I quote:

“ There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

Of course I personally don’t think a problem created by the West will be solved by the West. The only option that’s left is a justified war for liberation in the manner of Libya, Algeria and South Africa.