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Middle school removes bathroom mirrors to stop kids from making TikToks::Southern Alamance Middle School in Graham, North Carolina has taken drastic steps to reduce the time kids spend outside of class.

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[–] andros_rex 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You can’t take them, because the district is worried they’ll get sued if one breaks. Your option is to tell the parent, and the parent will 80% come up with some bullshit excuse or accuse you of targeting their child. I worked one district that had a form we could fill out - after getting caught three times they were supposed to turn the phone in. Never happened.

Please. Do. Not. Send. Your. Child. To. School. With. A. Smartphone. DONT.

They are addicted. We’ve given them tech that adults can’t even manage to responsibly use. They don’t know how to be bored or curious. The behavior is just strange - when I’ve been fuck it and just taken a phone - they regress. 15 year olds babbling and throwing tantrums like toddlers.

[–] RagingRobot 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Id feel safer sending my kid to school without a smartphone if I wasn't scared there would be a school shooting or some other reason my kid would need to call me for help. I get the sense a lot of other parents feel that way too.

My kids are still too young for that but when they are in high school and maybe depending on the middle school I'll probably start thinking about a phone of some kind.

Also my kids are bored all the time haha. Taking away their tablet or games is the best punishment most of the time when they argue. We are big on drawing over here though. Hard to stop a kid from drawing lol.

[–] andros_rex 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In a school shooting situation, cell phones could make things much worse. During my active shooter training, we were told to ask students to turn them off if we were in a shooting. The noise is an obvious danger, but the lines need to be kept clear for communication with emergency response personnel. There would be structured ways that the school would want to communicate with you - they don’t want the chaos of parents showing up to an active scene. I think it would be better to rely on things like the Rave app.

In other situations, the front office is there. That is the function that they have served for generations. Give the office aides something to do.

There’s just little reason for students to have smart phones in school. They cannot control themselves. We are asking them to have more self restraint than most adults do. It is not developmentally appropriate and it is harmful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

When I was a kid, there were pay phones so that kids could make calls for when they wanted to be picked up. And we had landline at home so that if you needed to make a call, you could.

Those things don't really exist anymore. And now we have phones with apps that monitor medical conditions like diabetes. Let's single out those kids?

In other situations, the front office is there. That is the function that they have served for generations. Give the office aides something to do.

So make the office staff stay after hours so that the kids with after school activities can make a phone call? Yeah, because fuck the school staff, right?

The horse has already left the gate. You're not going to get it back.

[–] andros_rex 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

504s exist for kids who need them for medical purposes. (Had a diabetic kid - her mom made sure she knew the phone was only for monitoring) While there aren’t pay phones; there is a landline in the office at every school that students will be able to use.

The office workers are hourly and are already scheduled to stay for at least an hour after school. That’s part of their job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

At my school there was an office phone outside the office that anyone could use. No need to staff it.