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Do EV's actually do anything beneficial for the planet? (lemmy.today)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've seen a lot of posts here on Lemmy, specifically in the "fuck cars" communities as to how Electric Vehicles do pretty much nothing for the Climate, but I continue to see Climate activists everywhere try pushing so, so hard for Electric Vehicles.

Are they actually beneficial to the planet other than limiting exhaust, or is that it? or maybe exhaust is a way bigger problem?

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m no expert, but I’ve asked the same question myself.

First off, I’ve been told that yes, exhaust from I.C.E. vehicles is very much a HUGE environmental concern. That being said, however- due to issues with current electrical generation, means that unless large steps are taken toward sustainable green energy, running the current grid for enough to cover charging needs produces a comparatively close amount of pollution per mile driven. On top of that, is the issue with the rare-earth minerals needed to manufacture the batteries used in current EVs, which are extremely damaging to mine, especially in increasing quantities. And finally- once they are worn out, there is no reliably safe way to dispose of those batteries. And the current lifecycle of them averages around 3-5 years, so as more are disposed of, that impact on soil and water tables is projected to skyrocket.

So it’s a many-fold issue, and at the end of the day they aren’t necessarily WORSE than ICE vehicles, but they are also not really any better.

As for why people THINK they are super environmentally friendly? In a word- marketing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A lot of ICE cars nowadays are hybrids which have just as many rare earth mineral requirements and still have terrible exhaust issues. EVs are a massive step up in sustainability.

[–] RubberElectrons 2 points 5 months ago

Don't forget the fact that you've now got two propulsion systems to maintain, meeting at the nexus of a much more complex transmission.

More can go wrong, though admittedly Toyota seems to have gotten a lot right. But if you have an issue, lots and lots of parts to consider.