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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by cll7793 to c/nostupidquestions
 

It is becoming near impossible to find relevant information from search engines. Duckduckgo, SearXNG, Bing, Google, and so many more mainstream engines have a significantly high noise to signal ratio, and it is getting worse.

Here are a collection of the best search engines I know, please add more to the list.

If no more high quality search engines exist, would it be possible to host your own?

EDIT: Some new discoveries. The addon uBlacklist and filters can block super SEO sites from appearing in search.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

Why would they do all that work to create a better search engine than Google and give it away for free? What is going to pay their bills?

Google pays their bills by selling your data and spying on your searches, not to mention they are morally corrupt. Kagi pays their bills with your monthly sub. Seems a lot better.

[–] cll7793 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I'm worried eventually even Kagi will get enshittified. It has been a common trend that almost always occurs. Open source is the only way to ensure stability. Conflict of interest is what leads to companies either overcharging, or even accepting to get bought out.

Don't get me wrong, Kagi seems to be a great company thus far! But for something as important as search it would be best to have an open source solution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Probably they will, but it could take a long time. Valve is still good as an example of a company that managed to not become crap.

Open source is the only way to provide stability? Can you explain more about this?

[–] cll7793 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Valve is great! Private and non-profit organizations give me some hope for a better internet one day.

Regarding Kagi, there are other potential concerns with privacy, data leaks and price gouging as well. The Patriot Act and Snowden's leaks have shown that companies will lie in their privacy policy to appeal to authorities even if they claim they are not storing information. All your health related searches, sensitive personal details, private life, etc is also always linked to your payment method waiting for a potential data leak if they are lying. (Or a copy is just sent to five eyes)

All that is to say, be wary of trusting your privacy to companies. Monetization is a powerful motivator!

[–] Z4rK 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can pay with bitcoin, which might help keeping the account entirely anonymous for some.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

After that power company got blackmailed in the American South and extorted for like 40000 Bitcoin, which they paid...but then within 24 hours the FBI had recovered all of it...which is something no one was supposed to be capable of doing, I'm going to go ahead and say Bitcoin anonymity is compromised.

That means the FBI or DHS has devoted the computational power necessary to track every.single.bitcoin.transaction and then indexed it all well enough to cross reference against metadata.

Bitcoin is as secure as they allow it to be. It's most likely allowed for the same reason the Tor network is, because it's an avenue to move resources or information to undercover assets overseas.

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